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Aran
Location: Kansas City Gender: Male Total Likes: 1848 likes
Huh. I guess covid made me a trendsetter.
| | | Re: When is it time to pass on a location? < Reply # 1 on 5/24/2017 7:08 AM > | Reply with Quote
| | | When the first wrecking ball hits. But in all seriousness, I have a few criteria for deciding when to permanently pass on a location. If I need to break or remove something to get in, I'll pass on it until an opening appears, either naturally or by someone else's hand. Nothing I've found has ever been worth a B&E charge. If it's too dangerous to access. I've passed up on a few locations, such as the roof of Agriculture Hall at UW Madison because access would require climbing around an unclimbable security fence via the thin supports of a rusty fire escape four stories up, on the outside of the fire escape. At that point, there is a non-insignificant risk of severe injury or death. There's plenty of rooftops out there, but I've only got one life. If it's a hotbed of drug activity- I'm talking about drug dens, or even worse- drug labs. I've been fortunate enough that I have not run into either, and I hope it stays that way. Lastly, if it's too heavily secured. This can take the form of regular guard patrols, or just a sophisticated security setup. A prime local example of this is the rooftop of Bascom Hall at UW Madison. Located on the top of Bascom Hill overlooking State Street, the rooftop images I've found online are gorgeous. However, the university has installed laser grid motion detectors and possibly night vision cameras, all hooked up to an auto alert server with a direct line to the UW Police Department. It's just too well secured to risk arrest. Other then that, there's not a lot that would cause me to give up on a location permanently. I can be patient- I've waited years to access some locations, and I'll probably wait several more for others. That's okay. And, if by some stroke of luck, the conditions change enough that they no longer fulfill the four criteria I've listed above? I'd happily explore such locations.
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| NeuroticMatt
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| | | Re: When is it time to pass on a location? < Reply # 6 on 5/24/2017 4:02 PM > | Reply with Quote
| | | Posted by Dee Ashley Pass on a place when your gut tells you to do so. Listen to your gut (i.e., instincts), and you will be grateful you did, I promise.
| I listen to my gut a lot. Me: "I bet I can fit through that window." Gut: "Nope." Me: "I bet I can climb over that obstacle!" Gut: "Nope." Me; "I bet I can..." Gut: "Feed me." Me: "...find a good place to eat." But yeah, I am not the most physically able guy. So if I have to do more than duck a little or go over a nice ladder like gate it might be a no go. Because, tacos.
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| DarkAngel
Gender: Male Total Likes: 275 likes
His operating system is unstable.
| | | Re: When is it time to pass on a location? < Reply # 19 on 5/26/2017 4:34 AM > | Reply with Quote
| | | Like the other guys have said, listen to your gut. If something feels weird, bail. That includes pretty much everything from debating stepping on this water soaked floor to wondering if that white car over there is a cop car or some random dude. Skill vs location Ease in ingress/egress and number of locations State of location Contamination types if any Gear you'd need vs odds of getting it into the location etc Trying to do something outside your skill set (for example I haven't rappelled in a decade) can get you killed. Me trying to ascend and rappel down an old power plant stack is a bad idea. If you can get in and out in several spots, good. If there is only one guaranteed in/out, I usually pass unless it's a guaranteed thing. No point in getting trapped, blocked in if something falls, etc. Rotting floors vs concrete vs half rusted ladders (pretty sure we had a member fall to their death on the ladder one ) etc. If it looks really shitty, pass. Bring a 'poking stick' if you are the slightest bit iffy on floors. Dowel, broom handle, etc. If it's squishy, I pass. No point in falling through a floor into god knows what. Asbestos, gasses, etc. Those take prep to handle and if you don't know your shit, you can potentially die on site. Even knowing my hazmat stuff, I don't go into situations that have gasses and try to avoid asbestos.
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