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Tatz
Location: Evansville, IN Gender: Male Total Likes: 200 likes
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| | | Re: Legal/Open Data fingerprints of abandonments? < Reply # 6 on 4/24/2020 5:25 PM > | Reply with Quote
| | | Found on the UE Tutorials, Lessons, and Useful Info Forum: https://www.uer.ca...d=1&threadid=83183 I see you're in your first month or two. Welcome to the forum! I highly recommend spending a LOT of time scouring the rookie and tutorials forum, especially in your first few months. I will also say that I'm able to find mass quantity of sites from my personal research, but the highest quality of sites I've found thru dumb luck, taking some risks, and going out with other experienced explorers.
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| Radio2600
Location: On the Road to Wellville Total Likes: 1699 likes
HY KAK TO TAK
| | | Re: Legal/Open Data fingerprints of abandonments? < Reply # 7 on 4/24/2020 5:45 PM > | Reply with Quote
| | | Condemnations and CO revocations. When most buildings, including houses, go vacant for extended periods, they get either condemned or have their Certificate of Occupancy (CO) revoked by the local building code enforcement agency. This can result from trivial violations of the local building codes (grass too high, peeling paint, rubbish sitting outside, etc.) and do not necessarily mean the building is all that unsafe. It's often times, just a money-making opportunity for the local government. You fix the violation and pay the town X amount of money to remove the condemnation. In the US there are what are known as Sunshine Laws. With some exceptions, any official action by a government agency is a public record and has to be made available to the public. In the case of an action by a building inspection or zoning agency, it would undoubtedly be a public record. The downside is there is no standard for how these records are made available to the public. Some agencies have them online and others you have to physically make an in-person request to view them. For instance, below is a condemnation put on a building in the Town of Oyster Bay, NY. The Town of Oyster Bay does not have their list of unsafe buildings online. You would have to physically go into the office and ask to see it.
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| s0phie
Location: Wisconsin Gender: Female Total Likes: 5 likes
| | | Re: Legal/Open Data fingerprints of abandonments? < Reply # 8 on 4/24/2020 7:35 PM > | Reply with Quote
| | | i've seen that post before! it's got some good info. I see you're in your first month or two. Welcome to the forum! I highly recommend spending a LOT of time scouring the rookie and tutorials forum, especially in your first few months.
| yep joined a short bit ago. i read a large number of threads in those two forums before joining and i'm still doing that. I will also say that I'm able to find mass quantity of sites from my personal research, but the highest quality of sites I've found thru dumb luck, taking some risks, and going out with other experienced explorers.
| that's been my experience as well, although i do like using research as a way of building out actual maps of things that i want to visit if they're larger (tunnels). i've had dcent success with this (thanks, people that forget to remove old presentation pdfs from their sites); less with abandonments, for probably the reasons other people have mentioned (likely to be overvisited if it's too obvious in public data, etc). there's no substitute for talking to other explorers Post by Radio2600 Condemnations and CO revocations.
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Post by Aran Demolition contracts.
| I haven't looked at these before! thanks for the tips. i've looked at redevelopment plans from city councils which can be helpful for finding things before demolition is even contracted out, but i didn't even think about CO revocations. one thing that i personally really enjoy that i rarely see people mention is googledorking. you can search something like sewerage.city.gov filetype:pdf |
and get things that admins forgot to remove from their servers. even if they're not linked to anymore, if google has ever happened to crawl those files, they should be visible
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| s0phie
Location: Wisconsin Gender: Female Total Likes: 5 likes
| | | Re: Legal/Open Data fingerprints of abandonments? < Reply # 11 on 4/27/2020 5:11 AM > | Reply with Quote
| | | Posted by ryanpics Maps are always my main way of finding places. But I have other things in the past that work pretty well. If there's a place that's notorious for having a type of place close, like Detroit's schools, you can look for old news articles about potential school closures, then research the individual ones once you find the names. I've always had more trouble than usual finding specific power plants from pictures. Generally there will be a wikipedia page on the power plants in a state, including ones that have been decommissioned. If that doesn't include it for whatever reason, maybe because it's too old of a plant, there's an EPA spreadsheet somewhere that includes all of the generating and pollution stats from every single power generating site in the country, past and present, no matter the size. However, the sheer size of the list makes finding places off of it extremely difficult. Not to mention how hard it is to find the document itself. The only time I used it was to check the status on a place near me after discovering that there was literally zero information on it online. And your gonna want Excel or Google Sheets so you can sort through the information. Just had a quick look back at it and oh my was it a lot of data. Good luck.
| ooh i didnt know that the EPA published historical power plant data. i was gonna look at the EIA's stuff, but I'll have to check that out too. a huge spreadsheet doesn't hurt me. i do data science often for my research job; i can just ingest it and play with the data programmatically.
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