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UER Forum > Private Boards Index > Religious Discussion > So this Muslim wants all the Churches in Middle East destroyed (Viewed 1272 times)
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So this Muslim wants all the Churches in Middle East destroyed
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If the pope called for the destruction of all the mosques in Europe, the uproar would be cataclysmic. Pundits would lambaste the church, the White House would rush out a statement of deep concern, and rioters in the Middle East would kill each other in their grief. But when the most influential leader in the Muslim world issues a fatwa to destroy Christian churches, the silence is deafening.

On March 12, Sheik Abdul Aziz bin Abdullah, the grand mufti of Saudi Arabia, declared that it is “necessary to destroy all the churches of the region.” The ruling came in response to a query from a Kuwaiti delegation over proposed legislation to prevent construction of churches in the emirate. The mufti based his decision on a story that on his deathbed, Muhammad declared, “There are not to be two religions in the [Arabian] Peninsula.” This passage has long been used to justify intolerance in the kingdom. Churches have always been banned in Saudi Arabia, and until recently Jews were not even allowed in the country. Those wishing to worship in the manner of their choosing must do so hidden away in private, and even then the morality police have been known to show up unexpectedly and halt proceedings.

This is not a small-time radical imam trying to stir up his followers with fiery hate speech. This was a considered, deliberate and specific ruling from one of the most important leaders in the Muslim world. It does not just create a religious obligation for those over whom the mufti has direct authority; it is also a signal to others in the Muslim world that destroying churches is not only permitted but mandatory.

The Obama administration ignores these types of provocations at its peril. The White House has placed international outreach to Muslims at the center of its foreign policy in an effort to promote the image of the United States as an Islam-friendly nation. This cannot come at the expense of standing up for the human rights and religious liberties of minority groups in the Middle East. The region is a crucial crossroads. Islamist radicals are leading the rising political tide against the authoritarian, secularist old order. They are testing the waters in their relationship with the outside world, looking for signals of how far they can go in imposing their radical vision of a Shariah-based theocracy. Ignoring provocative statements like the mufti’s sends a signal to these groups that they can engage in the same sort of bigotry and anti-Christian violence with no consequences.

Mr. Obama’s outreach campaign to the Muslim world has failed to generate the good will that he expected. In part, this was because he felt it was better to pander to prejudice than to command respect. When members of the Islamic establishment call for the religious equivalent of ethnic cleansing, the leader of the free world must respond or risk legitimizing the oppression that follows. The United States should not bow to the extremist dictates of the grand mufti, no matter how desperate the White House is for him to like us.
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I'm really now just coming around to the mindset that ALL religions are EVIL. I'm not an atheist, I may be an agnostic, I don't know. But this kinda shit is just not necessary. The writer can go ahead and slam Obama for his stance toward the Muslim world, but that isn't the problem. The problem is we have "true believers" of every stripe freaking out because there is a growing population of people who have seen the man behind the curtain. You can't control those who don't believe your stories; that's why the Muslims in the Mideast want the Christians out and that's why the Christians in America want the Muslims gone. What an horrific folly!




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Re: So this Muslim wants all the Churches in Middle East destroyed
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Posted by G to the Race


I'm really now just coming around to the mindset that ALL religions are EVIL.


Yup. As I was reading the article, I was thinking about both sides and the implications of everything that was happening and that the author was implying, and honestly, just before I got to the end, the only logical conclusion is that this is a good first step toward getting rid of all churches and mosques. Religion should only be allowed in dark corners, and only until we can root out all of those dark corners and slit the throats of what we will then be calling the criminaligious.




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Re: So this Muslim wants all the Churches in Middle East destroyed
< Reply # 2 on 3/18/2012 3:26 AM >
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religion isn't about afterlife insurance or fear of dying. It's about CONTROL.
always has been, always will be.

there is nothing beautiful about faith. break it down and what do you have:

irrational rules
fairy tales passed on as truth
exclusion
violence
suspicion of anyone different
and suspicion of rational thought.

yeah, sign me the fuck up.

being an atheist in this day and age is like being the only sane one in the day room of a mental hospital.




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Re: So this Muslim wants all the Churches in Middle East destroyed
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I know I'm young by a lot of the standards of this forum, but I'm terrified of the world I'm growing into an adult in, I doubt I'll be able to live to the age of my grandparents before the world implodes due to religion.
I hope I can use all the scientific knowledge I'm gaining in school to do something about it, make the world a better place or do something do disprove some of the absurdity.
Do any of you older folks have any hope to offer?




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G to the Race 


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Re: So this Muslim wants all the Churches in Middle East destroyed
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Posted by .Kyle


I know I'm young by a lot of the standards of this forum, but I'm terrified of the world I'm growing into an adult in, I doubt I'll be able to live to the age of my grandparents before the world implodes due to religion.
I hope I can use all the scientific knowledge I'm gaining in school to do something about it, make the world a better place or do something do disprove some of the absurdity.
Do any of you older folks have any hope to offer?


The hope lies in that it doesn't really matter; have faith, don't have faith, doesn't amount to a hill of beans. Just don't, as these people do, violate others with your particular psychosis. Voltaire said, "cultivate your own garden" and you will be fine; this makes sense to me.




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Re: So this Muslim wants all the Churches in Middle East destroyed
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Posted by G to the Race


The hope lies in that it doesn't really matter; have faith, don't have faith, doesn't amount to a hill of beans. Just don't, as these people do, violate others with your particular psychosis. Voltaire said, "cultivate your own garden" and you will be fine; this makes sense to me.


unfortunately, these people want to not only cultivate your garden for you, but tell you where to plant it, when to plant it, what to plant in it, and what to do with what you've grown.





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Re: So this Muslim wants all the Churches in Middle East destroyed
< Reply # 6 on 3/19/2012 11:34 AM >
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Posted by .Kyle
Do any of you older folks have any hope to offer?


No, sorry.


If the pope called for the destruction of all the mosques in Europe, the uproar would be cataclysmic. Pundits would lambaste the church, the White House would rush out a statement of deep concern, and rioters in the Middle East would kill each other in their grief. But when the most influential leader in the Muslim world issues a fatwa to destroy Christian churches, the silence is deafening.


There's silence because it's a case of "so what else is new?"




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