I've heard of this phenomenon before especially regarding Porsche Boxters, and their side mounted intake vents, my question about a 1987 Chevy van.

I changed the air filter out today and as some of you may know the 5.OL of that year and model has the air cleaner mounted almost directly beneath the radio and it uses the old "doughnut style "filter.

Now I've found the occasional odd debris when changing an air filter in the past, even in some newer cars with rectangular filters and I can't remember for sure but there's probably been an odd cigarette butt every now and then too. Today I was surprised though because I found no less than 5 cigarette butts (they appeared to be off all different brands ) in my air cleaner box.

Is this normal? How did they get there? I understand the most plausible explanation is people flicking cigarettes out thier windows where they then go through the grille and then get sucked up the air intake, but this still seems like a lot of cigarettes. Is it just something unique to the design of that vehicle ? Have I just been driving behind that many smokers who litter? Or is it something else I'm overlooking ?

I'd say you just drive behind that many littering smokers- it's been a while since I've worked on a G van, but isn't the snorkel from the air filter housing get its air from right at the top of the grille?

The scary thing is the proximity to lots of fuel and air since they're landing right above your carb...

Posted by CaptOrbit Porsche Boxters

That would be a 'Boxster' perhaps? Porsche Pedant here, but I suppose you wouldn't spell it Chevrolay'? No idea about the cigarette ends. Never seen even one myself in many, many air-filter changes. I would suspect malicious forces at work myself... Neko.

Posted by Kuroneko Porsche Pedant here, but I suppose you wouldn't spell it Chevrolay'?

But do you pronounce "Porsche" correctly?

Posted by splumerBut do you pronounce "Porsche" correctly?

I would like to, but you sound like a regular full-steam douche when you do so, so I just say it like everyone else. Except of course for the sausage-munchers... Neko.

there is a correct way to say Porsche? how cosmopolitan.

Posted by Kuroneko I would like to, but you sound like a regular full-steam douche when you do so, so I just say it like everyone else. Except of course for the sausage-munchers... Neko.

Well, as a partial-speaker of sausage-muncher-ese, I think those who mispronounce the names of their own cars sound pretty effin' stupid. It's like saying Chevrolet with a hard "T" on the end. But I won't pronounce Volkswagen "Folksvagen." THAT would be douchery.

Posted by splumer "Folksvagen."

Imagine my problem then; speaking Japanese every day, then rendering a Japanese car name into English. Which I always mess up, so just say it in Japanese, and of course hit the douche button in English every time... Such is life. Neko.

I've heard someone say it as "Poshe" and I still don't know why THAT person says it like that.

They had a speech impediment?

Posted by Kuroneko That would be a 'Boxster' perhaps? Porsche Pedant here, but I suppose you wouldn't spell it Chevrolay'? No idea about the cigarette ends. Never seen even one myself in many, many air-filter changes. I would suspect malicious forces at work myself... Neko.

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Posted by bandi They had a speech impediment?

No, he said everything else OK...I think he was trying to be fancy...

Posted by Agent Skelly I've heard someone say it as "Poshe" and I still don't know why THAT person says it like that.

Bostonian, perhaps?

Posted by splumer Bostonian, perhaps?

So back to the speech impediment thing...

Posted by splumer Bostonian, perhaps?

HA! no. This was in oddly, PA...