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MutantMandias Perverse and Often Baffling
Location: Atlanta, GA Gender: Male Total Likes: 268 likes
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| | | | Re: Guns in society. < Reply # 1 on 2/26/2013 5:58 PM > | Reply with Quote
| | | Excellent point. When children are violently murdered, it is just a tiny, virtually insignificant percentage of the number of guns that exist. The only logical conclusion is that either their lives are also insignificant, so nothing should change, or we could, as a society, decide to limit the amount of guns that are in the wild, which would have a strong effect of reducing the number of bloody children's bodies. And it also does an excellent job of showing how useless all of those guns actually are in preventing the slaughter of children.
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| MutantMandias Perverse and Often Baffling
Location: Atlanta, GA Gender: Male Total Likes: 268 likes
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| | | | Re: Guns in society. < Reply # 5 on 2/26/2013 9:37 PM > | Reply with Quote
| | | Posted by jeepdave Thank you for a reasoned response, but if I'm not part of the problem why would you or anyone support bills and legislation that will restrict me in my hobby?
| How many time do I have to say it? I have never supported any such thing. Posted by jeepdave I think inner city ghetto culture is MUCH more dangerous than Jim Bob teh GUN nut posting pictures of all his guns on face book
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There is little difference between those two things in the long run. Posted by jeepdave That culture seems to be the issue along with the sporadic and random "mass shootings" that insane people go off on. Until you can get youths to not want to be "thug life 4 life" and put more effort in dealing with mental illness ( Maybe it's time to bring back the institutions no matter how much of a gray area they are ) we are not going to be able to stop all shootings. And even then, we still won't ever stop all murders. People will ALWAYS kill other people.
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Yup, I'm all on board with everyone having guns. What could possibly go wrong? So, to deal with the other problems, I think the first rational step towards reducing endemic societal mental illness would be making laws outlawing all religion, which would immediately reduce the toxic levels of hypocrisy and duplicity that cause the cognitive dissonance that some people can only seem to resolve by taking a harmless gun and killing people.
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| MutantMandias Perverse and Often Baffling
Location: Atlanta, GA Gender: Male Total Likes: 268 likes
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| | | | Re: Guns in society. < Reply # 8 on 2/27/2013 12:30 AM > | Reply with Quote
| | | Posted by jeepdave MM if you want less guns out there how do you think that goal can be achieved?
| Like I said, I'm really not interested in limiting the numbers of guns. My first post used the phrase " we could, as a society, decide to limit the amount of guns," which I think has confused you. And I'm not proposing anything. This forum is for the discussion of societal issues. It's not like the Politics or Religion forums, where sound, logical proposals to solve the world's problems are developed and enacted for the good of mankind. Let's look at the car thing, because it is so often brought up. Cars can of course kill people, both accidentally and intentionally. I think intentional car homicides are probably pretty rare... rarer even than the intentional gun homicides. But cars are a lot more widespread and accepted. They are a tool that society has come to rely on, and their primary purpose is not to kill, but that's beside the point for my purposes. Sure they are dangerous, but pretty much everyone accepts their efficacy and usefulness. So, maybe guns should be much more widespread. That certainly makes sense if you think about it. I have often considered buying a gun, but I don't feel comfortable having one around unless I get to a point where I feel completely comfortable with it as a tool. I don't think I should have one unless I am able to function with it as a virtual extension of my hand, because its proper use (or improper use) has such dire consequences. And I don't have the interest, desire, or need to develop that skill/comfort. But, if guns were much more pervasive in society - were required for day to day life - for basic survival in the world, then they would just be a fairly mundane tool for everyone. To be a functional person, you would have to develop those skills, just like most people have to develop comfort with driving in order to to live in today's world. So, there you go, more guns, everywhere, for everyone might be the answer to less gun perversion. An essential tool that is understood and accepted by everyone is probably not going to be worshiped or misunderstood to the point of destruction. But they aren't essential tools. Some people have jobs where they are necessary, but as a society, we generally consider those jobs to be less desirable, partly because there is a life risk involved. Some people use guns to provide food for themselves and others, which I consider honorable, but society generally views hunting as an unnecessary endeavor, if not somewhat negatively. So, back to cars.... They are considered essential for the functioning of society, and yet they are probably more destructive than guns could ever be. I just walked through a parking lot filled with cars. The amount of resources required to build each car is enormous. The amount of resources required to process and distribute fuel to each car is enormous. The amount of pollution emitted by each of those cars over time is enormous, and there are over a billion of them driving around. So, we've seen their use and made them ubiquitous, even though the continued use of them will eventually kill us all. Of course, getting rid of cars, as a impossible thought experiment, would cause the end of the world as we know it, too. ....Maybe I lost the thread there a bit, but thank you for reading. I think there are some interesting thoughts there. So anyway, I think the gun perversion comes from the fact that their purpose is so extreme, while their role in most people's modern lives is minimal. It makes them a fetish (which is actually an excellent word for guns these days). I don't think we'll ever go to a point where everyone is comfortable with guns. In fact, as long as society remains stable, the perception will continue to grow that guns are a bit of an oddity. But don't worry. It will all be better when we have robots. Then we can just command the robots to kill for us, and guns will seem much less threatening.
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| MutantMandias Perverse and Often Baffling
Location: Atlanta, GA Gender: Male Total Likes: 268 likes
Are you a reporter? Contact me for a UE interview! Also not averse to the the idea of group/anal.
| | | | Re: Guns in society. < Reply # 12 on 2/27/2013 2:46 PM > | Reply with Quote
| | | Posted by jeepdave Honestly people kill each other for plenty of reasons, profit, anger, mental illness, etc. And there isn't a damned thing we can do to stop it.
| OMG. I just had a great idea. We should make killing people illegal.
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