They're trying to make them the high tech luxury performance brand. I'd buy a Buick.

I owned a turbo regal... Unless its a grand national or a big old (50s or 60s) car, they just don't excite me.

Posted by wannabeotaku They're trying to make them the high tech luxury performance brand. I'd buy a Buick.

that's just it; they're trying the same rebranding strategy that worked for Cadillac. I mean, when I see a CTS or ATS now, I don't see old fart car, i see BMW or Lexus alternative... and i've driven a CTS-V... i'd definitely put it against the vaunted 'M'.

But they're marketing the new Buicks to people that are in their mid-life crisis. If they can build a car that has the leather and tech gadgets that wifey wants, hubby gets the 6 speed manual transmission and high performance engine to satisfy his newly sagging penis.

Posted by wannabeotaku But they're marketing the new Buicks to people that are in their mid-life crisis. If they can build a car that has the leather and tech gadgets that wifey wants, hubby gets the 6 speed manual transmission and high performance engine to satisfy his newly sagging penis.

I think it's part of a strategy to let Toyota have all the cranky old baby boomers who like to complain about everything and tell people how they want it...

Posted by Agent Skelly I think it's part of a strategy to let Toyota have all the cranky old baby boomers who like to complain about everything and tell people how they want it...

lol

Hah!!!

Prius? I hate that car, and most of the people who drive them. And I will overtake one anytime I see it (even in the westfalia).

Posted by sleeperspirit And I will overtake one anytime I see it (even in the westfalia).

I used to have a TDI Jetta with bigger nozzles and a higher volume injection pump. (Basically a sooty terror). I'd go out of my way to pull in front of lame Toyota hybrid "cars" (sorry, the plural of Prius is stupid) and smoke them out. While still getting better mileage.

Posted by Samurai it's a Toyota Matrix with a Pontiac emblem. in the 70's and 80's, yeah, it was common to find build sheets in the cars.

The Vibe is cheaper used I think, without the Toyotas (real or imagined) reputation, which took a huge dive in the last 7 or so years. Cool about the build sheets. Seems Mopar fans are special. When selling my Cordoba, a guy just wanted to look at the serial number and talk about it. He drove a '69 New Yorker.

When looking at a 70's Satellite the seller pointed out check marks done on the assembly line. Worst part is, I can kind of relate, lol. Seeing Christine on the line gets me excited. In the book Wheels, a pissed off worker puts a Coke bottle inside the rocker, to give the car a forever rattle that can't be traced.

I love finding build sheets and such. We found the one for my dad's '69 Roadrunner tucked under the back seat.

Posted by A. Lien Seeing Christine on the line gets me excited. In the book Wheels, a pissed off worker puts a Coke bottle inside the rocker, to give the car a forever rattle that can't be traced.

Same... I love that part of the movie.

When I worked for GM, during the "dark times" when bankruptcy was looming above our heads, we had some interesting things come through on brand new vehicles, the best being a brand new pickup which kept coming back with a random clattering noise from underneath on corners. We FINALLY found a nut and bolt with a bunch of washers in between rolling around inside the left frame rail, with a note on a GM parts tag that said "How long did it take you bastards to find this?"

Lol that's great!

Posted by bandi Same... I love that part of the movie. When I worked for GM, during the "dark times" when bankruptcy was looming above our heads, we had some interesting things come through on brand new vehicles, the best being a brand new pickup which kept coming back with a random clattering noise from underneath on corners. We FINALLY found a nut and bolt with a bunch of washers in between rolling around inside the left frame rail, with a note on a GM parts tag that said "How long did it take you bastards to find this?"

in the 70's when the domestic auto industry was facing truly dark times, layoffs and such, disgruntled workers would put nuts, bolts, bottles, anything to make noise in the rocker panels of cars (Vegas and Chevelles/Malibus were the most notorious) so they would be impossible to ever find the noise.

Posted by Samurai in the 70's when the domestic auto industry was facing truly dark times, layoffs and such, disgruntled workers would put nuts, bolts, bottles, anything to make noise in the rocker panels of cars (Vegas and Chevelles/Malibus were the most notorious) so they would be impossible to ever find the noise.

I'm still waiting for my cat toys to come back to me.

I haven't done this in a while, but my cats like to leave their catnip mice in my work shoes. I'd find them when I finally got to work and I'd get pissed off at something, then shove the cat toy in the core of a shipping roll behind the core plug.

I probably did that 10 or 20 times that I can remember. Never heard a word about it. Probably never will either.

Betting those guys never heard anything about their bolts either.