Posted by sleeperspirit Why not look for another place to work? Life's too short to deal with bulllshit

where i live, this is the only game in town if you want to make a halfway decent wage... i make $20.97 an hour, highest qualified is like $22.something an hour... if i leave this job, I am looking at not even half that, IF i can find a job.
i live in a very economically depressed part of New York state.

Posted by Samurai where i live, this is the only game in town if you want to make a halfway decent wage... i make $20.97 an hour, highest qualified is like $22.something an hour... if i leave this job, I am looking at not even half that, IF i can find a job. i live in a very economically depressed part of New York state.

I see... what do you do for work?

Posted by sleeperspirit I see... what do you do for work?

I work in the back end of a paper mill, the chem-prep/pulp mill.
My official job title is "Assistant Recausticization Plant Operator"
basically, in a Kraft-process paper mill, you need a power house, a pulp mill and a recaust plant to make the cycle. We make the white liquor that gets pumped to the pulp mill where it chews the lignin out of the wood. At that point, the now black liquor gets pumped over to the recovery boiler in the powerhouse where the lignin and other shit gets burned up. The smelt gets dropped out of the boiler into a dissolving tank where its now turned to green liquor. It gets pumped over to us and we turn it back into white liquor to use again. It's dirty, smelly and dangerous work.

Sounds it, but my work can be the same.

Posted by sleeperspirit Sounds it, but my work can be the same.

and what do you do?

Post by Samurai where i live, this is the only game in town if you want to make a halfway decent wage... i make $20.97 an hour, highest qualified is like $22.something an hour... if i leave this job, I am looking at not even half that, IF i can find a job. i live in a very economically depressed part of New York state.

Jesus. Jobs aren't paying much these days are they? Come build fancy Toyota's up here in Canada, they recently made starting wage around $20 an hour I believe.

Sam, I'm a lead tech at a small independent auto shop.

Posted by gtbikes51 Jesus. Jobs aren't paying much these days are they? Come build fancy Toyota's up here in Canada, they recently made starting wage around $20 an hour I believe.

He should instead work at Oshawa Assembly

Unfortunately they start at less and are prone to layoffs. The Camaro's days are numbered there too. But yes, I'd rather build American cars but these Japs don't layoff. I got to top rate before they started a 10 year grow in for top rate too.

That's because American cars are shit, that's why nobody buys them , hence closing plants (or shipping to Mexico)

Posted by Agent Skelly He should instead work at Oshawa Assembly

He can read and write, so he's overqualified.

Posted by sleeperspirit That's because American cars are shit, that's why nobody buys them , hence closing plants (or shipping to Mexico)

that's why nobody buys them?
yeah, right. whatever.

When is the last time Ford or chrysler made a good car?

Posted by budda When is the last time Ford or chrysler made a good car?

the Taurus, Mustang and Fiesta are good cars.
the Dart is a good car.

My cousin tried to buy a new ford fusion, luckily I intercepted and was able to point him to a new 2013 passat TDI

Posted by budda When is the last time Ford or chrysler made a good car?

You've seen my dad's Fusion. I love that thing, and it drives very well.

As for Chrysler, the latest 300 is actually a fairly decent car. Sure, our rental ended up as part of a drug bust a few days after we turned it in...but hey, it's a 300.

Posted by Nismo My cousin tried to buy a new ford fusion, luckily I intercepted and was able to point him to a new 2013 passat TDI

i drove a 2013 Fusion Sport and to be honest, it was not a half-bad car.
my only bitch was that the transmission and engine couldn't seem to agree on what was going on 30% of the time.

Im mixed about the ford fusion, Havent driven it. I like the front end but the ass end is terrible. After having a passat TDI for a bit already Ive fallen in love with that car, its big, comfortable and gets 1100km to a tank doing 160km/h the whole trip.

My dad bought a 2010 ford fusion brand new. 4cyl, 5speed auto. He left it to me when he died this year, but I also had driven it quite a bit over the last 3 years. Both of us babied the car as far as driving habits go. I couldn't fucking stand the car. There was no power, gas mileage was ok, but not stellar for a car this slow. Bad body roll in corners, yet the suspension would firmly transfer any bump directly to your ass. You can't lock the trunk. Someone breaks your window, all they have to do is push the trunk open button. Not even the car alarm deactivated it. So no point ever leaving valuables in it.

Brand new, the dashboard had a dent in it, and the cheap plastic pseudo carbon fiber radio bezel didn't even fit right. The flimsy as fuck sheet metal would dent if you look at it funny. Otherwise fit and trim was ok, if we're comparing it to a 2002 Kia Rio, but just sub par for a $23,000 car. The seats were pretty ok though, but the car just felt horribly cheap.

5,000 miles, the Cd player quit working.

10,000 miles, interior driver door handle just snapped off

15,000 miles, the two rear external door handles started sticking and not opening the door sometimes.

3 years, warranty expired. Then the real fun started.

20,000 miles, the engine started burning oil, about 1 quart a tank.

Also around this time, the A/C started blowing warm intermittently, and the transmission developed a habit of neutral dropping itself if accelerating from an almost stop. You'd hit the gas, engine would rev to about 3k, 2 seconds later the transmission would finally engage and jerk the car forward.

28,000 miles, the transmission stopped shifting properly in cruise control. Did not want to shift to 5th, and instead ran the engine up to and beyond 6,000 rpm on the highway, would only shift if brake applied.

30,000 miles, what do you know, the transmission started slipping during acceleration.

31,000 miles, traded the fucker, bought Honda Civic.

Ford can make a pretty car, but they literally just seem to fall apart from brand new.

At least that's better than the 97 ford windstar that spent literally 50% of its short life being serviced for numerous problems, and finally threw a rod at 35k in 2001, as soon as the warranty expired, and actually as my mom was on the way to the dealership to trade it in. She lost $7,000 in 1 second. Ford gave her pennies on the dollar for the car.

Posted by budda My dad bought a 2010 ford fusion brand new. 4cyl, 5speed auto. He left it to me when he died this year, but I also had driven it quite a bit over the last 3 years. Both of us babied the car as far as driving habits go. I couldn't fucking stand the car. There was no power, gas mileage was ok, but not stellar for a car this slow. Bad body roll in corners, yet the suspension would firmly transfer any bump directly to your ass. You can't lock the trunk. Someone breaks your window, all they have to do is push the trunk open button. Not even the car alarm deactivated it. So no point ever leaving valuables in it. Brand new, the dashboard had a dent in it, and the cheap plastic pseudo carbon fiber radio bezel didn't even fit right. The flimsy as fuck sheet metal would dent if you look at it funny. Otherwise fit and trim was ok, if we're comparing it to a 2002 Kia Rio, but just sub par for a $23,000 car. The seats were pretty ok though, but the car just felt horribly cheap. 5,000 miles, the Cd player quit working. 10,000 miles, interior driver door handle just snapped off 15,000 miles, the two rear external door handles started sticking and not opening the door sometimes. 3 years, warranty expired. Then the real fun started. 20,000 miles, the engine started burning oil, about 1 quart a tank. Also around this time, the A/C started blowing warm intermittently, and the transmission developed a habit of neutral dropping itself if accelerating from an almost stop. You'd hit the gas, engine would rev to about 3k, 2 seconds later the transmission would finally engage and jerk the car forward. 28,000 miles, the transmission stopped shifting properly in cruise control. Did not want to shift to 5th, and instead ran the engine up to and beyond 6,000 rpm on the highway, would only shift if brake applied. 30,000 miles, what do you know, the transmission started slipping during acceleration. 31,000 miles, traded the fucker, bought Honda Civic. Ford can make a pretty car, but they literally just seem to fall apart from brand new. At least that's better than the 97 ford windstar that spent literally 50% of its short life being serviced for numerous problems, and finally threw a rod at 35k in 2001, as soon as the warranty expired, and actually as my mom was on the way to the dealership to trade it in. She lost $7,000 in 1 second. Ford gave her pennies on the dollar for the car.

holy shit, dude.