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UER Forum > Canada: Ontario > Nicholls Building (Mental Health Facility) (Viewed 9311 times)
jerm IX 


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Nicholls Building (Mental Health Facility)
< on 4/12/2015 8:40 PM >

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Hello again.

I posted a rough draft on this place about three years ago but kept it on the hush.

Now that it's been demoed for over two years I'm laying my cards on the table.

Check it all out here...

http://jermalism.b...mental-health.html

Here's a taste...

Nicholls Building by jerm IX, on Flickr

Music therapy by jerm IX, on Flickr

Nicholls Building by jerm IX, on Flickr

Held for observation by jerm IX, on Flickr

Nicholls Building by jerm IX, on Flickr

Nicholls Building by jerm IX, on Flickr








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Excited Delirium 


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Re: Nicholls Building (Mental Health Facility)
< Reply # 1 on 4/12/2015 9:37 PM >

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Did you tag this one too?




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Maybe 


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Re: Nicholls Building (Mental Health Facility)
< Reply # 2 on 4/12/2015 11:56 PM >

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The whole city's dripping in his tags lately. Very conspicuous.

More than a little concerned by how easy it is for the public to Google the vandalism & assume that disrespect for others' property is "an urbex thing."




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Re: Nicholls Building (Mental Health Facility)
< Reply # 3 on 4/13/2015 1:58 AM >

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You think Jerm would've learned his lesson with the controversy of the Wheat Paste fiasco when he started here... Then he starts the whole thing all over again with his stickers being posted everywhere...




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Harvestman 


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Re: Nicholls Building (Mental Health Facility)
< Reply # 4 on 4/13/2015 4:39 AM >

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GUYS POST POSITIVE COMMENTS.

You will contribute to Jerm's vision as a Real Artist and by God you are going to LIKE it.

Things like "hey Jerm I liked that sticker you put on the wall (no, not that sticker, the *other* sticker. No, on the other wall.)."

Positive comments go

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jerm IX 


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Re: Nicholls Building (Mental Health Facility)
< Reply # 5 on 4/13/2015 11:26 AM >

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I've already been approached by Av about my tagging. I told him to close my account if he saw fit. He chose not to do so. I guess since you guys are always whining and attacking someone your voices must not carry much weight.

I'm done. Peace out.

Mods feel free to delete my account, I'm done here.



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Brind 


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Re: Nicholls Building (Mental Health Facility)
< Reply # 6 on 4/13/2015 1:13 PM >

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Posted by jerm IX

Mods feel free to delete my account, I'm done here.


There's a button to do so on the "My Options" page. I suppose that wouldn't be nearly as dramatic or a way to draw attention to yourself though.




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Skye_Ann 


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Re: Nicholls Building (Mental Health Facility)
< Reply # 7 on 4/13/2015 8:35 PM >

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Posted by jerm IX
I guess since you guys are always whining and attacking someone your voices must not carry much weight.


Actually, I've been incredibly proud of our community lately. The bullying has been significantly reduced (at least publically). We just don't support people who vandalize... Your stickers have been found on public property, which puts us all at risk for someone to look you up and think that your vandalism is directly linked to our hobby...

If it was ANYONE ELSE posting stickers with their username on them all over the place, they'd be getting the same reception.




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terapr0 


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Re: Nicholls Building (Mental Health Facility)
< Reply # 8 on 4/13/2015 9:05 PM >

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Ugh, this is so fucking pathetic - how and why did this conversation come back to stickers / tagging / wheatpaste?? Did you see a single photo or any mention of any of the above in his post here, or within the full thread on his website?

No, you didnt.

So why must you persist in coming into Jerm's threads and busting his balls over things he did not do? He did not vandalize this building, nor was doing so implied or condoned.

I understand that some of you might not like the stickers he's been posting up in Peterborough, and I'd suggest that if it bothers you so much you contact the city to discuss the matter with them. They'll likely be as eager to pursue him as they are to stop the many businesses that do this as a way of advertising. If they can't be bothered to shut down a roofing company who posts up their sign on a traffic pole, what makes you think they care about his stickers?

As a moderator I (and all the others) would be compelled to take action if you posted evidence of him actively vandalizing an abandoned building, but what he does in a public space is decidedly outside the purview of this website. The moderators have already discussed this and Av made his decision, so why don't you quit being a bunch of butt-hurt fairies and just stop clicking on his threads if he bothers you so much? Me and lots of others around here actually enjoy his contributions.

You know it's funny - I've just spent some time looking through the post history of some of Jerms most vocal detractors. Ironic how little meaningful content they actually contribute here, despite being such outspoken defendants of this community. Maybe you should spend less time whining about Jerm's accomplishments and more time, I don't know, actually exploring? Let me guess you're all so elitist that you explore but just don't post about it? If that's the case, then why are you even here?



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Re: Nicholls Building (Mental Health Facility)
< Reply # 9 on 4/13/2015 10:06 PM >

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He may not post those pics on Uer but they are on a couple other sites. Wheat paste is one thing, spray painting and his stated lack of respect for this site is what brought the backlash




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ZenCanadian 


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Re: Nicholls Building (Mental Health Facility)
< Reply # 10 on 4/13/2015 10:09 PM >

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And p.s. I know for a fact mods were shown pics of his tag in spray paint as well as pics of his friends tagging, was anything done? Nope.




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terapr0 


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Re: Nicholls Building (Mental Health Facility)
< Reply # 11 on 4/13/2015 11:33 PM >

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As someone who's explored with Jerm several times I would hardly characterize him as having anything but a profound respect for the locations he visits. In real life he's an honest-to-god nice person who means well and is very generous. Quite frankly, I'd take a friend like Jerm over a many others around here.

Think what you want of the man and call him out when it's truly deserved, but talking about stickers and wheatpaste in a thread that made no mention of it to begin with is just plain trolling. Anyone with a legitimate complaint should do so through the appropriate channels - needless in-thread harassment of fellow members will not be tolerated.

None of our shit's don't stink and I'd caution those of us who aren't in fact Jesus Christ to exercise caution before throwing stones inside of glass houses.


Also don't forget that the final decision regarding his FM status was made by Av. It's his website and I respect his decision. if you have an issue with the way things turned out, maybe take it up with him?




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Harvestman 


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Re: Nicholls Building (Mental Health Facility)
< Reply # 12 on 4/14/2015 1:39 AM >

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Posted by terapr0
Let me guess you're all so elitist that you explore but just don't post about it? If that's the case, then why are you even here?


This is better than exploring and vandalizing a location. Because really, let's call a spade a spade here. Putting stickers, paint, wheatpaste, etc. on things is vandalism.

As the Torontonian Banksy himself would say:
Posted by jerm IX
Cheers to those of you that left positive comments.






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ZenCanadian 


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Re: Nicholls Building (Mental Health Facility)
< Reply # 13 on 4/14/2015 1:44 AM >

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I think people should keep in mind that some of us have families, full time jobs and other responsibilities that keep us from getting out as much as we'd like. We can't all be young with plenty of time to get out there.




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Re: Nicholls Building (Mental Health Facility)
< Reply # 14 on 4/14/2015 2:07 PM >

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Whats exploring?




terapr0 


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Re: Nicholls Building (Mental Health Facility)
< Reply # 15 on 4/14/2015 4:07 PM >

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Posted by Harvestman
Because really, let's call a spade a spade here. Putting stickers, paint, wheatpaste, etc. on things is vandalism.



Well if we're choosing to employ a literal interpretation of the word, then writing your name on a chalkboard is still vandalism, in which case I'm a vandal, and I'm guessing you are too. I have photos of chalkboards inside abandonments in the GTA that would condemn half the members on the Ontario forum as vandals.

van·dal·ism
ˈvandlˌizəm/
noun
noun: vandalism

"action involving deliberate destruction of or damage to public or private property."


Explain to me how writing on a chalk board is any less invasive or unwanted than posting a sticker up inside of the same room? They are both removable, they are both unwanted and they would both surely be characterized as "vandalism" by a concerned property owner. Both a sticker and a name written in chalk are clear signs of a breach in security and both have a very real potential to get the location "locked down".
Moreso, in both instances you're already guilty of trespassing, so how can you justify getting so preachy and righteous?

It's outright hypocrisy to condone your preferred means of vandalism while crucifying someone else for theirs. Let's call a spade a spade here and admit that you're a vandal too, and a trespasser to boot. Glass houses anyone??



And Zen - As someone who's married, with a mortgage, OSAP payments, two car payments, insurance payments, volunteer commitments and a small business that see's me work 60-70+ hrs a week I'm hugely sympathetic to the plight of the working man (or woman). When I was in university I was out exploring sometimes two or three times a week - these days I'm lucky to get out once a month!
I wasnt talking about people like us (as I know you're in a similar boat), I was talking about those around here that are active explorers but just choose not to post any photos or writeups because of some elitist attitude towards sharing.
They contribute nothing other than insults, yet feel entitled to criticize others who actually share with the community. Quite frankly I think that's bullshit and that they should either put up, shut up or fuck off.

Ultimately, nobody is forced to read Jerm's threads, and if they don't like him or what he does I suggest they stop clicking and stop attacking him at every turn. I for one enjoy reading his posts and think it would be a damned shame to see hypocritical trolls chase off an enthusiastic member of this vibrant community.


TLDR version: if you don't like JermIX or his threads, stop reading/replying them.



Just mt $0.02 on the matter. I'm going to try hard not to reply to this any further as I don't enjoy beating dead horses.




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Re: Nicholls Building (Mental Health Facility)
< Reply # 16 on 4/14/2015 6:32 PM >

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Posted by terapr0
Explain to me how writing on a chalk board is any less invasive or unwanted than posting a sticker up inside of the same room? They are both removable, they are both unwanted and they would both surely be characterized as "vandalism" by a concerned property owner. Both a sticker and a name written in chalk are clear signs of a breach in security and both have a very real potential to get the location "locked down".
Moreso, in both instances you're already guilty of trespassing, so how can you justify getting so preachy and righteous?

It's outright hypocrisy to condone your preferred means of vandalism while crucifying someone else for theirs. Let's call a spade a spade here and admit that you're a vandal too, and a trespasser to boot. Glass houses anyone??


You assume too much. I've never left my name on/in an abandonment and don't intend to.

As for writing your name on a chalkboard vs. putting up stickers all over the place, one is considerably easier to remove than the other.




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Re: Nicholls Building (Mental Health Facility)
< Reply # 17 on 4/15/2015 1:43 AM >

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I've gotta say, 3-5 photos of a building, then a link to an external website isn't really contributing that much HERE. I'm perfectly fine with someone posting their blog or flickr at the end of a post - but Jerm has several threads with one or two photos then "hey check out my blog for more". Which is more of a "hey check out my blog for any actual meaningful content that I can't be bothered to post on here."

UER isn't losing much if Jerm leaves. His fans can still visit his blog, check out his upcoming documentary and everything else Jerm related as they please.




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Re: Nicholls Building (Mental Health Facility)
< Reply # 18 on 4/15/2015 1:45 AM >

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Posted by terapr0
Well if we're choosing to employ a literal interpretation of the word, then writing your name on a chalkboard is still vandalism, in which case I'm a vandal, and I'm guessing you are too.


That actually made my head hurt. Being written on with chalk (a temporary medium) is what chalkboards are designed for. That's like saying using a doorknob to open a door is vandalism.

Mass produced bumper stickers being slathered all over every single telephone and hydro box (And on a few storefronts, too.) in Peterborough/Belleville/Kingston and now apparently Hamilton is vandalism. Ever try peeling a poor quality bumper sticker off of a car? It's not fun. In fact, it's tedious.

And spray paint is worse.

I'm gonna go vandalize the dry-erase board on my fridge with this month's schedule. Peace.

Edit: And also, I should add, that those of us who don't get out to explore very often, well... at least we aren't bringing negative attention to this hobby by vandalizing stuff in our free time. Chalk boards included.




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jerm IX 


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Re: Nicholls Building (Mental Health Facility)
< Reply # 19 on 4/15/2015 12:33 PM >

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Cheers terapr0.

1. I have no intention of ever discussing this topic on this forum ever again.

2. I have no intention of ever acknowledging the five of you ever again.

3. Stickers are the least invasive form of graffiti, in the same way that trespassing is the least invasive form of urbex. We are all guilty of misdemeanours. The difference is I'm not judging you.

4. I have had several interactions with police regarding my stickering and they couldn't care less. They're stickers ffs.

5. I find it hilarious and a tad peculiar that you people, grown adults, would get so worked up about my sticker hobby.

6. I genuinely wish you all nothing but the best. Time to take the higher road, I hope you'll join me.




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