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Ground State
Location: Ontario, Canada Gender: Male Total Likes: 1005 likes
| | | Death by Asbestos < on 5/30/2015 12:04 PM > | Reply with Quote
| | | You guys and gals out there that always wear masks when you explore are so very responsible, and my hat goes off to you. I tend to get complacent as location after location come to pass. But I got a stern warning a few weeks ago from my camera, and thought I would share it with you as a little nudge that hopefully pushes a few of you over the edge into mask-wearing territory!! Good ventilation here: a nice, bright day, a light breeze, lots of open holes and windows. No need to worry... 001 I realized I completely blew the white balance out and tried again with the flash firing, inadvertently revealing the culprit floating the air. Son of a bitch! 002 On closer inspection, there was asbestos insulation found everywhere throughout the location. The worst part is I even had my mask with me!! Redundantly, I put it on for the rest of the explore. But I already feel that after a few years of stupidly not wearing a P-100 routinely enough, it is already too late for me. Death by Asbestos by Ground State Photos, on Flickr I hope it was worth it going here. Since I've signed my death warrant, let me at least shamelessly promote the exploration thread. It was a exceptional location - an old nudist resort in southern Ontario. I simply had to get here and investigate the history of this sultry (haha?) photo: If interested, check it out. But it is a long thread, with a definite * NSFW * warning: http://www.uer.ca/...urrpage=1&pp#post0
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| DJ Craig Moderator
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| catdog23
Location: Limestone City Total Likes: 130 likes
| | | Re: Death by Asbestos < Reply # 11 on 5/31/2015 5:42 AM > | Reply with Quote
| | | Posted by Aran Is asbestos even a risk for us, realistically speaking? I've heard contradictory information about it. I know that the two ways it is dangerous is if you are chronically or acutely exposed to it. That being said, would visiting abandonments a few times a month even be enough to be considered risky? It doesn't seem like enough exposure to be considered chronic, and so long as your not snorting it, it shouldn't be enough to be considered acute, right? Sorry, just want to figure out exactly how many precautions I should consider taking.
| This always bugged me too because many explorers seem to have a deathly fear of the stuff that seemed a little extreme to me. After consulting medical literature as well as government reports here are my findings: There are two kinds of asbestos exposure, primary and secondary. Primary is dealing with harvesting it, manufacturing with it, and demolitions of buildings that contain it [1]. Secondary is dealing with it in your daily environment. The people who are most likely to develop asbestosis are those who have long term primary exposure at high levels [2]. I interpret this to mean that it's analogous to smoking in a lot of ways: you need high exposure over a long period of time in order to dramatically increase your risk of chronic illness. This report by the Health Effects Institute shows your odds of developing an asbestos related ailment is extremely low (never exceeding 0.0000006%) UNLESS you are working with it full time for decades at high industrial exposure levels where it goes up to 1 in 500 (historically being as high as 1 in 5) [3]. Not good odds. That being said this is just what I've found, and a lot of the sources are from the 80's from when this was a large issue in the public eye. It's pretty hard to gauge exposure levels for urban explorers because abandoned buildings aren't usually up to code, though the emphasis for risk-mitigation is focused on avoiding long-term exposure at high levels. My opinion is that asbestos is relatively low risk to explorers, but if you're exploring dusty decrepit locations you should still carry a respirator due to the myriad other fine particles and fungi that have more acute risks capable of compounding. [1] http://www.ncbi.nl...ticles/PMC1271773/ [2] http://web.archive...res/20010916a.html [3] http://pubs.health...org/view.php?id=13
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