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wranglerroadhead
Location: San Diego/LA Gender: Male Total Likes: 73 likes
Safari Kay
| | | Re: Favorite Vertical Access Devices? < Reply # 5 on 6/2/2016 3:41 AM > | Reply with Quote
| | | Tiblocs are awful for ascending once you give them a shot. First, you need to match them with an oval carabiner as they are very finicky between specific designs (it is just trial and error to me). They also wont work almost at all with most "D" shaped 'biners. There is a reason they are marketed an "emergency" ascendance devices and big wallers haven't adopted them to replace traditional juggers- they suck to use. That said, they will get you up a rope and I still carry one in addition to some cord because they are so light weight and space saving for mechanical advantage hauls. For less than $20 USD it is probably one of the least expensive pieces of hardware you can get just to try it out. Heck, you may actually find a more efficient way of using it. If I was ascending a rope, though, I would prefer a klemheist (or prusik). Cord is more versatile in my opinion for ultra light weight movement anyhow and doesn't necessarily require a carabiner to function (as does a tibloc). As for favorite vertical movement device, I still absolutely adore the GriGri2. Call me under developed if you must, but I find so many uses for the device. It certainly has its disadvantages, but for most of my ropework it fits the bill to the "t". Cant beat the rack though for long, variable, or technical rappels. Rope twist? fuhgettaboutit! Ability to alter device friction? Heck yeah! Rope size limitations? Anything from fishing line to anchor chain! Weight? ...uh.... we'll get back to you on that once we've hiked this thing in, haha. As much as I love my rack, I have only used it once outside of practice or teaching and that was on one LOOOOONG rappel. Back to the topic at hand, my second favorite device is my BD ATC Guide. Lightweight and versatile, it is simple and can accommodate a decent array or rope diameter (with varying success). Can do double or single rope rappel with ease and is probably the most intuitive. Anyways, that is my rap. Everyone has their favorite toys. Find what works for you. Not everyone "ropes" the same way so don't take it from anyone if it doesn't make sense. In all honesty, there isn't a whole lot you cant do with some rope, carabiners, and cordage. Everything after that is just awesome colored icing on the cake.
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| DawnPatrol
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| | | | Re: Favorite Vertical Access Devices? < Reply # 7 on 6/4/2016 3:58 AM > | Reply with Quote
| | | ^ A lot of the canyoneerers I've met rappel on figure 8s. There terrible for so many reasons. They twist up the rope like crazy, you can't add friction, and you have to take them off your harness to attach the rope ( drop it down whatever you're about to rappel down and your fucked. If it's a canyon, you're REALLY fucked). @wranglerroadhead, Therrin gave me one of his tiblocs. I like the idea of just having to carry that or a prusik for canyoneering because when it comes to that, you should never need to ascend. Only in an emergency situation would it be necessary. Though we'll see, if I try it and it's too much trouble, it might be worth the weight to just carry my handled ascender. I may have to disagree with you about the cord being more versatile though. It's only really useful if you know beforehand how thick the rope you're going to be ascending is. If you try to do it on someone else's rope and the ratio isn't right to what you tied your prusik out of, you're not going anywhere lol. I don't own my own rope yet, so that's a concern to me. I just want to try as many different things as I can, I'm becoming a bit of a gear junkie :p I just learned recently how to rappel on a carabiner (which I hear is a terrible experience) and I want to try that too just for the fun of it. As far as the rack's weight goes, I have a friend who has a titanium microrack. They are ridiculously expensive but about 1/3 the thickness/weight or my normal one. It's the most amazing think I've ever seen haha.
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