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Photography Question
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My google searching hasn't gotten the result I'm looking for so I'm asking here! What is it called when an object or a portion of the foreground is in sharp focus but the background is blurry? I've had it happen by accident but I want to make it happen on purpose! Thank you for any help you might have.




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Depth of field.
Bokeh - If the background is aesthetically blurred and somehow adds beauty/interestingness to the photo.




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wide open expensive glass does it best like f1.4 or f 1.2 or f2 my favorite




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Depth of field.
Bokeh - If the background is aesthetically blurred and somehow adds beauty/interestingness to the photo.


Exactly

Great bokeh comes from shooting normally near to wide open with a lense that has 8 or more aperture blades. The number and shape of the blades are what forms the pleasing background blur.
Certain lens like the 70-200 f/2.8L excel at this. It's sharpest wide open.
My favorite street shooter.

Generally speaking less expensive lens don't have the pleasing background blur seen in the high dollar ones. One of the subtle qualities your paying the big bucks for.
Portraits lens tend to have slower AF lock ups but are dripping with creamy smooth bokeh.

This is one such lense:
http://www.imaging....2l-ii-usm/review/

The above site has very useful lense reviews with blur charts, explore it.




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Depth of field.
Bokeh - If the background is aesthetically blurred and somehow adds beauty/interestingness to the photo.


Thanks! I think depth of field is what I was looking for but now I'm going to research bokeh too. More to learn is always a good thing.




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wide open expensive glass does it best like f1.4 or f 1.2 or f2 my favorite


Thanks! I haven't invested like that yet so this is going on my list of things to consider when I buy my first fancy camera




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Great info.

Go wide, make a custom cutout, and then you can play around with bokeh shapes!


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Exactly

Great bokeh comes from shooting normally near to wide open with a lense that has 8 or more aperture blades. The number and shape of the blades are what forms the pleasing background blur.
Certain lens like the 70-200 f/2.8L excel at this. It's sharpest wide open.
My favorite street shooter.

Generally speaking less expensive lens don't have the pleasing background blur seen in the high dollar ones. One of the subtle qualities your paying the big bucks for.
Portraits lens tend to have slower AF lock ups but are dripping with creamy smooth bokeh.

This is one such lense:
http://www.imaging....2l-ii-usm/review/

The above site has very useful lense reviews with blur charts, explore it.


Wow thank you! So much info for more research which is my favorite thing to do when I should be working. I appreciate the link too but it leads me to one of my biggest questions on camera buying - canon or Nikon? I have a small canon sx230hs that allows a decent range of manual settings so I am going to play with aperture on it. Since I have had canon for years should I stick with them?




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if you are a nikon shooter the old 50mm F1.2 can be had for a good price!!




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Wow thank you! So much info for more research which is my favorite thing to do when I should be working. I appreciate the link too but it leads me to one of my biggest questions on camera buying - canon or Nikon? I have a small canon sx230hs that allows a decent range of manual settings so I am going to play with aperture on it. Since I have had canon for years should I stick with them?


Stick with Canon. Excellent repair/support services especially for pro cams and L glass. More pros shoot with Canon.
As you upgrade you will appreciate the improvements and similar layouts between cam classes.
You never regret L glass or a pro cam if you can swing it...
Lol, my only regret is not owning them anymore




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if you are a nikon shooter the old 50mm F1.2 can be had for a good price!!


lol I don't have a camera that's fancy enough to swap lenses yet, but thanks for the info!



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Stick with Canon. Excellent repair/support services especially for pro cams and L glass. More pros shoot with Canon.
As you upgrade you will appreciate the improvements and similar layouts between cam classes.
You never regret L glass or a pro cam if you can swing it...
Lol, my only regret is not owning them anymore


I have a funny feeling this is one of those hobbies my pocketbook is going to cry over. I just googled those lenses and somehow price is the first thing that shows up!




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glass is expensive! but sometimes its the best way to capture the "look" that you want. and You'll be happier with your photos and skills when the results are final




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I have a funny feeling this is one of those hobbies my pocketbook is going to cry over. I just googled those lenses and somehow price is the first thing that shows up!


it can believe me




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Great info.

Go wide, make a custom cutout, and then you can play around with bokeh shapes!

https://c1.staticflickr.com/4/3732/11404570214_f0e452d405_b.jpg
Dried roses

https://c1.staticflickr.com/8/7293/11954069356_d73b6a4601_z.jpgColored notes


These are really cool! Thanks!




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glass is expensive! but sometimes its the best way to capture the "look" that you want. and You'll be happier with your photos and skills when the results are final


I'm going to look at some bodies I saw at the shop last week once I get my tax return comes. I've realized it's inevitable now lol




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I'm going to look at some bodies I saw at the shop last week once I get my tax return comes. I've realized it's inevitable now lol


B&H Photo, it's where the pros buy.
Highly recommended... check out their website.
Do your homework and take your time.
Many decisions to be made if you're going to buy.

What do want to shoot?
I recommend a pro body if you can afford it.
Pros upgrade a lot and a used one in good condition can be had at good price.

Decide what length lens you want.
Primes, zooms or a mix.
The 24-70L and the 70-200 IS f/2.8 make a nice pair.
An earlier model non IS 24-70L can be had at a reasonable price as its not as desirable as the IS version but still a nice piece of glass.
Same with the 1st generation 70-200 IS f/2.8 however make sure it has IS and -Do Not- get the f/4 version.
Add a wide angle lense to that and you're pretty well covered.



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Any recommendations on how to achieve this effect with a cheap digital camera? The auto focus on mine always brings the background into focus, rather than the foreground.




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at what point will you start to see an improvement in DoF quality? I have a 50mm f/1.8 lense that produces what I think is pretty nice bokeh, and I'm not sure how a more expensive/specialized lens would look better. an example or comparison image would be especially appreciated!




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at what point will you start to see an improvement in DoF quality? I have a 50mm f/1.8 lense that produces what I think is pretty nice bokeh, and I'm not sure how a more expensive/specialized lens would look better. an example or comparison image would be especially appreciated!


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