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Re: Photography Question
< Reply # 40 on 4/18/2017 3:03 PM >
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I don't know why you would need a receipt unless it was a case like that factory defect like I had. They asked who I bought through and verified it with B&H.
The only thing Canon will do is check the serial number to see if it's on the stolen list.
When buying used Canon gear you can call Canon to see if it's stolen.


Nikon still uses Sony images sensors.
Canon designs and manufactures their own.
Check the specs for boot up, frames rate in RAW, etc.
Canon has always been about speed which is why it's a sport shooters fav.

A brief summary for Canon/Nikon action shooters:
https://www.bhphot...action-photography


If I was deciding on buying a cam, I'd read about the technologies schemes used by both companies and understand it thoroughly. Read full specs and reviews for the bodies -and- lens.
That's a lot of reading... happily, it's not my problem

Full lens reviews and bodies as well:
http://www.slrgear...ws/index.php/cat/2



Thanks for the websites! I started in on both last night as I love a good amount of reading 🤓




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Re: Photography Question
< Reply # 41 on 4/18/2017 9:50 PM >
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Underdog:

One that is expected to lose a contest or struggle 
One that is at a disadvantage ie Nikon.

better?


Buyer beware. Read, read, read... learn.
Start with the cam and lens specs/reviews.
It is a big deal.
Once you have a couple grand of glass you're married to that brand.

One reason I choose Canon; they had and still have the biggest market share.
They traditionally earmark a large amount of their profits to R&D; that's implemented first on their pro cams but quickly trickles down to lower end models. Cams aren't their only business so they cross share technology with other segments of their businesses such as copiers which lower their costs.
Bottom line Canon has a lot of cash for R&D.
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I never had the Canon software lose an image and DPP is easy to use.

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Um... OK, I never said anything about Nikon being an underdog.... so not sure how I have an underdog complex.

Also, I don't make purchase decisions based on market share. I make purchase decisions based on what camera does the job I need it to do with the best possible results.






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Re: Photography Question
< Reply # 42 on 4/18/2017 9:59 PM >
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Get over the underdog complex; pick the right tools for the job that you can afford.


I have no clue what you're going on about. These days I have a virtually unlimited budget to purchase whatever I want, and I shoot Nikon. I've owned "pro" level cameras from both brands, and yet prefer Nikon. I like the ergonomics, the user interface and the build quality more than Canon. The images I can produce with either camera are absolutely identical.

I'm Not for a moment saying that Nikon is "better", or that Canon is "worse", but having owned both, I'm saying the picture quality is identical (when compared between similar bodies and lenses, obviously), and the "market share" means absolutely nothing. if you look back throughout their collective history you'll quickly see they've been leapfrogging each other in terms of innovation for decades. They both spend tens of millions of dollars a year on R&D and are constantly pushing the limits of imaging technology. They're both excellent - pick them both up and choose whichever feels the best in your hand. Choose whichever one you can get a good deal on, or as mentioned before, choose the brand your friends shoot with, so you can borrow and try out their lenses and gear for free.

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< Reply # 43 on 4/18/2017 10:22 PM >
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I have no clue what you're going on about. These days I have a virtually unlimited budget to purchase whatever I want, and I shoot Nikon. I've owned "pro" level cameras from both brands, and yet prefer Nikon. I like the ergonomics, the user interface and the build quality more than Canon. The images I can produce with either camera are absolutely identical.

I'm Not for a moment saying that Nikon is "better", or that Canon is "worse", but having owned both, I'm saying the picture quality is identical (when compared between similar bodies and lenses, obviously), and the "market share" means absolutely nothing. if you look back throughout their collective history you'll quickly see they've been leapfrogging each other in terms of innovation for decades. They both spend tens of millions of dollars a year on R&D and are constantly pushing the limits of imaging technology. They're both excellent - pick them both up and choose whichever feels the best in your hand. Choose whichever one you can get a good deal on, or as mentioned before, choose the brand your friends shoot with, so you can borrow and try out their lenses and gear for free.

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I'm curious how do the viewfinders stack up on the recent Canon/Nikon pro cams?
A decade ago the mid range Nikon cam outdid my Canon pro cam for manual focus in low light even changing focus screens didn't get it close to the Nikon.
Really?
Has Canon rectified that deficiency do you know?

Personally I go with one or the other as its a steep learning curve to get proficient with a system.
A half second can cost you a keeper.
Fast boot time and especially fast AF locks/focusing are important to me.
To be fair it take me more then a couple hours to compare the current generation for performance. Just as long for the glass.
I know Canon has revised many of their L glass in the last 10 years and I assume Nikon has as well.
If I had the money I be playing with it... shooting with pro gear is a blast.




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< Reply # 44 on 4/18/2017 10:32 PM >
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I have no clue what you're going on about. These days I have a virtually unlimited budget to purchase whatever I want, and I shoot Nikon. I've owned "pro" level cameras from both brands, and yet prefer Nikon. I like the ergonomics, the user interface and the build quality more than Canon. The images I can produce with either camera are absolutely identical.

I'm Not for a moment saying that Nikon is "better", or that Canon is "worse", but having owned both, I'm saying the picture quality is identical (when compared between similar bodies and lenses, obviously), and the "market share" means absolutely nothing. if you look back throughout their collective history you'll quickly see they've been leapfrogging each other in terms of innovation for decades. They both spend tens of millions of dollars a year on R&D and are constantly pushing the limits of imaging technology. They're both excellent - pick them both up and choose whichever feels the best in your hand. Choose whichever one you can get a good deal on, or as mentioned before, choose the brand your friends shoot with, so you can borrow and try out their lenses and gear for free.

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Thanks for saying this. I thought I was in crazy town for a minute.





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< Reply # 45 on 4/18/2017 10:41 PM >
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I'm curious how do the viewfinders stack up on the recent Canon/Nikon pro cams?
A decade ago the mid range Nikon cam outdid my Canon pro cam for manual focus in low light even changing focus screens didn't get it close to the Nikon.
Really?
Has Canon rectified that deficiency do you know?





Are you asking if the view finder (the piece you look through to sight your subject) of one brand is better than another?

Let me clarify my question- Are you asking if the ambient light coming into one eye piece on one camera is some how brighter than the ambient light coming into the eye piece of another to help you see so you can manually focus better?

Please explain to me how one camera MANUALLY focuses better than another?

If you mean Auto-focus- the Canon auto focus system is problematic in low light.




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< Reply # 46 on 4/19/2017 12:08 AM >
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Are you asking if the view finder (the piece you look through to sight your subject) of one brand is better than another?

Let me clarify my question- Are you asking if the ambient light coming into one eye piece on one camera is some how brighter than the ambient light coming into the eye piece of another to help you see so you can manually focus better?

Please explain to me how one camera MANUALLY focuses better than another?

If you mean Auto-focus- the Canon auto focus system is problematic in low light.


As someone who shoots a Canon, I can assure you, the AF in low light is just fine.




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As someone who shoots a Canon, I can assure you, the AF in low light is just fine.


Indeed. With a f/2.8 or faster lense AF locks are fast and precise.
Even 10 years ago I had no trouble street shooting at night with ambient light.




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< Reply # 48 on 4/19/2017 5:21 PM >
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As someone who shoots a Canon, I can assure you, the AF in low light is just fine.


Glad you've had good experiences with yours.




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< Reply # 49 on 4/20/2017 12:20 AM >
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Glad you've had good experiences with yours.


It depends on ambient light.
Fast AF acquisition/tracking for action shooting is a Canon selling point.
For low light still simply use a red laser pointer (532 nm is best) for fast dead spot on locks. Works on object hundreds of feet away.

On the cams the settings have to be optimized for the type of shooting, obviously.
One sign of a defective body or one not in specs is dodgy AF especially for action shooting. If that happens it's a real bitch to sort out; it can be subtle
Always suspect firmware before hardware; reflash to the latest firmware even if it's running on the most current rev. A corrupt flash/firmware or outdated firmware can cause this.

If that fails send cam and lens to Canon for calibration.
This will usually resolve AF issues.




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< Reply # 50 on 4/20/2017 5:45 PM >
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It depends on ambient light.
Fast AF acquisition/tracking for action shooting is a Canon selling point.
For low light still simply use a red laser pointer (532 nm is best) for fast dead spot on locks. Works on object hundreds of feet away.

On the cams the settings have to be optimized for the type of shooting, obviously.
One sign of a defective body or one not in specs is dodgy AF especially for action shooting. If that happens it's a real bitch to sort out; it can be subtle
Always suspect firmware before hardware; reflash to the latest firmware even if it's running on the most current rev. A corrupt flash/firmware or outdated firmware can cause this.

If that fails send cam and lens to Canon for calibration.
This will usually resolve AF issues.


Yea. The 5DsR especially though. Just google 5dsR focus issues and you'll see the thread after thread of complaints.

I mean, it's a great camera, I just have to use it for studio and landscape stuff and then use my other system for low light.





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Yea. The 5DsR especially though. Just google 5dsR focus issues and you'll see the thread after thread of complaints.

I mean, it's a great camera, I just have to use it for studio and landscape stuff and then use my other system for low light.




That's the best use for the 5D*.
My weapon of choice for low light action was the 1DMark3.
It did very well with AF lock ups.
The 5D was doggy slow in comparison and it's AF and metering systems just didn't come close.



*Early models sometimes suffer from firmware issues that are latter resolved.
Always make sure you have the latest firmware flashed.
Just because it's new doesn't mean the cam and lense are optimally calibrated.
Don't bitch about it; send the cam/lens in for calibration and to check for error codes on the cam. They will also update the firmware if it needs it.
My 70-200L had bad chromatic distortion right out of the box, very irritating. After I got it back it was right as rain and my favorite lense.




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Not sure if its been mentioned yet but the wider the aperture, the more blurred out the background is! If you prefer not chancing losing detail in the original photo though you can always take a sharp photo on location then run it through editing software afterwards like Lightroom or Photoshop. I like using a 50mm 1.4 when I do depth shots though




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I'm not a technical person. I don't shoot technically (unless I really force myself to think about it and it isn't natural) and I don't think technically. I've owned Canon, Nikon, and Sony DSLR's and you can't go wrong with any of them. I like Sony the best, but it's the only full-frame out of that DSLR bunch I've ever had, so I'd probably say that for whatever the brand. I can't tell you the stats or the tech specs on the damn thing, I just like that it can take great photos, even in low light, and I love the ability to swap out the lenses so easily with the mirrorless frame.
The point to all of that chatter is just to say, who gives a flying f*ck what anyone else thinks about this or that. If you like it and you can afford it, go for it (but do your research first!). Screw the rest.




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I'm coming in late to this thread but I'm not sure if someone has asked the most important questions.

Are you willing to learn how to use a camera in manual mode, and how often will it get used?

Manual is the way to get the best photos, but you have to learn a lot to get there. Balancing ISO/shutter/aperture to get the result you want.

If you don't have the time/willingness to learn or it'll only get used every now and again, there's no real point in getting a higher end camera.

Btw, I used to sell cameras for a living ;)




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Nikon user here btw. I just like the ergonomics, software, and of late their sensors have been spanking Canon on performance across the board.




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