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Alien
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| | | Re: Your favorite aircraft < Reply # 42 on 4/20/2006 11:13 PM > | Reply with Quote
| | | The missing Arrow is just a myth sadly... RL 202 was the Arrow that is often called the "missing Arrow" as it wasn't in the famous "Death Row" photo of a bunch of Arrows being cut up to go to the smelter in Hamilton. 202 was the Arrow that went at M 1.98 at 75% throttle - a red light came on in the cockpit aborting the high-speed run. Upon landing from this flight, the aircraft's computer had a sensor error which made the computer think that 202 was taking off again, but in reality, the engines had been idled and the brakes locked. This caused the Arrow to skid-off the runway and the landing gear to snap off and the wingtip to get badly damaged. Due partly to it needing repairs, 202 never flew again. The other reason was that it was being outfitted with the missile pack at the time of cancellation. I've seen a photo of all five Arrows (some say there are 6, but this is incorrect - the sixth was RL 206, the first Mk. 2 Arrow, which was nearly complete, except for that it was missing its engines) in a semi-gutted state, but the more popular picture of "Death Row" shows only four Arrows. This is because Avro/RCAF didn't want to throw out the missile system, and so it was being uninstalled before 202 was cut up. There are parts of 202 around, so it is known that this Arrow saw the torch. I think there are pieces of all of the Arrows still around, as well as a bunch of the engines (Both the J-75's and the Iroquois) RL 207 may have made it out of scrapping Apparently, the RCAF wanted to keep one of the incomplete Arrows in pieces, and 207 was on the line still on Black Friday and was nearing completion. Maybe the NRC or DND still has it... As for my favourite planes For military aircraft... Anything from Lockheed (C-130 (probably my favourite plane of all time), F-35, F-22, U-2, SR-71/A-12/YF-12, F-117/Have Blue, C-141...) , any Blackhawk variant and the UH-1, the Arrow and Canuck as for civil... Anything from Diamond or Cirrus is nice, Any Columbia/Lancair is amazing, Boeing 707s and 727s and 737s, and when it comes out the 787 Dreamliner, Lockheed twins and Howards, old Cessnas (120 or 140) I don't like just one plane, I like 20... lol
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| | | | Re: Your favorite aircraft < Reply # 48 on 7/4/2006 7:24 PM > | Reply with Quote
| | | Posted by Alien The missing Arrow is just a myth sadly... RL 202 was the Arrow that is often called the "missing Arrow" as it wasn't in the famous "Death Row" photo of a bunch of Arrows being cut up to go to the smelter in Hamilton. 202 was the Arrow that went at M 1.98 at 75% throttle - a red light came on in the cockpit aborting the high-speed run. Upon landing from this flight, the aircraft's computer had a sensor error which made the computer think that 202 was taking off again, but in reality, the engines had been idled and the brakes locked. This caused the Arrow to skid-off the runway and the landing gear to snap off and the wingtip to get badly damaged. Due partly to it needing repairs, 202 never flew again. The other reason was that it was being outfitted with the missile pack at the time of cancellation. I've seen a photo of all five Arrows (some say there are 6, but this is incorrect - the sixth was RL 206, the first Mk. 2 Arrow, which was nearly complete, except for that it was missing its engines) in a semi-gutted state, but the more popular picture of "Death Row" shows only four Arrows. This is because Avro/RCAF didn't want to throw out the missile system, and so it was being uninstalled before 202 was cut up. There are parts of 202 around, so it is known that this Arrow saw the torch. I think there are pieces of all of the Arrows still around, as well as a bunch of the engines (Both the J-75's and the Iroquois) RL 207 may have made it out of scrapping Apparently, the RCAF wanted to keep one of the incomplete Arrows in pieces, and 207 was on the line still on Black Friday and was nearing completion. Maybe the NRC or DND still has it... As for my favourite planes For military aircraft... Anything from Lockheed (C-130 (probably my favourite plane of all time), F-35, F-22, U-2, SR-71/A-12/YF-12, F-117/Have Blue, C-141...) , any Blackhawk variant and the UH-1, the Arrow and Canuck as for civil... Anything from Diamond or Cirrus is nice, Any Columbia/Lancair is amazing, Boeing 707s and 727s and 737s, and when it comes out the 787 Dreamliner, Lockheed twins and Howards, old Cessnas (120 or 140) I don't like just one plane, I like 20... lol
| A good friend of mine has a piece of Canadian Aviation history at his cottage near Pt Petrie. A model arrow with the rocket motor still attached. We hooked it while fishing around a quarter-click off the point about 10 years ago.
| [11:23:20] * nightbird looks at jj's crotch in amazement [19:48:06] <Freak> YOUR TOAD A SPLODE [22:04:21] <keti> in fact, im rather robotic Virginity does not collect intrest. -Andrea [15:44:19] <Kellogs> i'm part of a complete breakfast you know =P wait...that sounds so wrong |
| Alien
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| | | Re: Your favorite aircraft < Reply # 50 on 11/19/2006 1:30 AM > | Reply with Quote
| | | You might have found a model Arrow with a rocket motor still attached to it, but I doubt that it's one from Avro. http://www.avro-ar...row/AHFCModel.html. Avro's Arrow models are slightly smaller than a man, made of metal, and weighed about 225 kilograms, or about 500lbs. The Nike rocket is a little too big to pull up with a fishing rod (just a little, lol), and, according to what I've read, the model Arrow would have been released from the main rocket for free-flight, so the rocket motor that would be on the model would likely be the ejection rocket. Also, the models landed about 5-6 miles off shore and all launches were successful, so I doubt that a 500lb model moved about 5 miles on it's own to where you guys found yours. Your friend probably found a toy model rocket, or perhaps a prop from the CBC TV docudrama on the Arrow. If it was a real Avro model, I'd be surprised, given the amount the investment money and technology into finding the models (I think they've recovered or located one).
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| Bustedknuckle
Location: The Lone Star State Gender: Male Total Likes: 2 likes
"I'd rather laugh with the sinners than cry with the saints"
| | | | Re: Your favorite aircraft < Reply # 55 on 12/2/2007 10:59 PM > | Reply with Quote
| | | Hello all, Favorite Aircraft.....thats easy: Warbird Fighter: NAA P-51 Mustang Warbird Bomber: Boeing B17 Flying Fortress or Convair B36 Peacemaker Modern Military: F-35 JSF Vintage Civilian: Beechcraft 17 Staggerwing Modern Civilian: Beechcraft Bonanza (no V tail doctor killers please) I have been fortunate to ride in several WW2 a/c like the mustang and a FG1 Corsair (yes there are a few with a seat behind the pilot...no visibility but still), among others. I thank the Lord every day for that and I guess I just got lucky. Couple of my pics: Me crammed in the back of the P51 Over Midland TX Stallion 51
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| Bustedknuckle
Location: The Lone Star State Gender: Male Total Likes: 2 likes
"I'd rather laugh with the sinners than cry with the saints"
| | | | Re: Your favorite aircraft < Reply # 57 on 12/3/2007 4:32 AM > | Reply with Quote
| | | Posted by SnArF Any interest in the T-38 texan?
The T38 Talon? Cool plane, never seen one fly though....come to think of it.
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