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| | | Re: Security Camera < Reply # 23 on 4/29/2019 11:42 PM > | Reply with Quote
| | | Posted by Gothic Ghoul
I'm sure the judge will operate based on your interpretation of the law.
| It's not an interpretation. It is what it is written in the law. s. 348(1)(a) - breaks with intent To make out the charge under 348(1)(a), there must be an "intent" to commit an indictable offence and the intent must be present at the time of the entering. Breaking and entering into a place is not a criminal offence without a sign of an offence while inside. So no, I'm not interpreting the law, I'm reading it.
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| whiteShadow
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| | | Re: Security Camera < Reply # 31 on 4/30/2019 1:48 AM > | Reply with Quote
| | | Posted by blackhawk
You been baiting this thread along. Not the way to rack up your post count as a basic member.
| What are you talking about ??? I just wanted to learn something about security cameras. It's not my fault if people brought up other topics. But they are also interesting topics. So if we can't talk about these things here, I don't really see the point of having a forum. I couldn't care less about my post count. Read the thread again, you will see I'm not the one that mentioned lockpicking, I'm not the one that mentioned B&E and law, I'm not the one that mentioned pictures. I just wanted to ask a question, and I'm a bit sick to have to justify myself for everything I say (especially when I just reply to people).
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| Aran
Location: Kansas City Gender: Male Total Likes: 1848 likes
Huh. I guess covid made me a trendsetter.
| | | Re: Security Camera < Reply # 34 on 4/30/2019 5:04 AM > | Reply with Quote
| | | Posted by ryanpics Explorers, in most cases, do nothing other than open things to get into places. Whether it's finding an unlocked door, climbing through a missing window, or using tunnels to get into a building. There are only a few cases where something like lock picking would be OK, and this is certainly not one of them.
| Yep. It better be a once in a decade, incredibly mind blowing find if you're going to attempt to pick the locks in full view of the camera. Somehow I suspect this building isn't worth the risk. I'd wait and keep an eye on it, it'll probably open up eventually- it may take months or even years, but a safer opportunity will present itself someday.
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| "Sorry, I didn't know I'm not supposed to be here," he said, knowing full well he wasn't supposed to be there. |
| whiteShadow
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| | | Re: Security Camera < Reply # 38 on 4/30/2019 12:56 PM > | Reply with Quote
| | | Posted by Fleeting You asked how to determine if a security camera is active. There was a suggestion or two provided on the previous page. But, you also mentioned that you needed to hover around the door for a couple minutes. Hmmmm, what would one be doing to a potential point of entry for a couple minutes that you wouldn't want cameras seeing? Picking locks is a pretty plausible assumption, and that is why it was made. We didn't have to debate about what would constitute B&E in Canada, you could have settled the score by clearly stating what your intended action was for those two minutes. Just remember, even in Canada, doesn't matter how well you know or interpret the law, you still gotta listen to security and/or police. How do you intend to respond when they're arresting you and interrogating you for B&E?
| Somebody assumed it was for picking. I never say such thing. Actually, later, I said I don't need picking tools. I didn't ask people to assume what I'll be doing and judging me based on their assumptions. Of course I will listen to police or security. I never said the opposite, but it also useful to know the law about it. I just cited it, thinking other people might be interested, that's all. I didn't encourage anybody to pick or what, so I don't see where is the problem. Although I don't need to, if I wanted to pick locks, that would be my problem, not yours. You have your vision or urbexing, I have mine.
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| whiteShadow
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| | | Re: Security Camera < Reply # 39 on 4/30/2019 1:02 PM > | Reply with Quote
| | | Posted by ryanpics I completely take back what I said about going for this place, just to protect you. I said the lock picking thing almost as a joke, but I guess people are dumb enough to literally break into a building to explore it. Explorers, in most cases, do nothing other than open things to get into places. Whether it's finding an unlocked door, climbing through a missing window, or using tunnels to get into a building. There are only a few cases where something like lock picking would be OK, and this is certainly not one of them.
| This is your vision of urbexing. Some people (like me) don't mind taking some risks, as long as it is calculated risks. That's why I'm trying to get info on these security cameras first, that's why I read the law about B&E, carrying lock picking tools, etc...
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