Posted by Smurf That doesn't rule out a chemical mechanism like dish soap or rancid fat. Having a high frequency of people get sick more than just one visit to the Perkins makes it a lot more likely here. Example: "On October 12, 2015, a county health department notified the Wyoming Department of Health of an outbreak of gastrointestinal illness among residents and staff members at a local correctional facility. The majority of ill persons reported onset of symptoms within 1–3 hours after eating lunch served at the facility cafeteria. Consuming lunch at the facility on October 11 was highly associated with illness; No infectious agent was detected in human stool specimens or food samples. Hexanal and peroxide, markers for rancidity, were detected in tortilla chips and composite food samples from the lunch." So to use the CDCs terminology, consuming food at the Perkins restaurant was highly associated with illness, as only those who ordered food (a minorty of those in attendance) were among those who reported adverse symptoms.
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Or simply too much fat for the GI to handle...
Fever plus vomiting are a good indications of food poisoning, simple diarrhea less so.
Posted by Clockwork
Um... Blackhawk? Why do you keep casting doubt on the notion people who ate at this Perkins contracted food poisoning there? I'm not trying to start an argument here, but you keep saying "it's never the last meal you ate" and talk about the length of time it takes for symptoms to appear. Did anyone here make a statement to cast doubt on their Perkins-caused food poisoning being caused by eating Parkins food at Mouser Week dinner? In virtually every case I've experienced or witnessed, the symptoms did only appear approximately 2 days after eating at the place being blamed. I experienced the worst food poisoning of my life on a New Years day a couple years ago. A few of my other friends likewise got sick. At first, we blamed the seafood appetizers we consumed on New Years eve (the night before). But like you said, it's never the last meal you ate. We realized that the only people who got sick were the four of us who had eaten at a certain fast food restaurant two nights earlier. Everyone else at the New Years party had not gotten ill. That was an excellent lesson in how long it takes to experience food poisoning.
I blame Perkins for my Mouser Week food poisoning because my illness came on approximately 2 days after Perkins dinner. And the only other people who got sick were - as Smurf said - the folks who bought food and ate at Perkins for Mouser Week dinner. The explorers who chose to order nothing got away with no illness.
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Not arguing
There should always be some doubt in your mind when doing this. Remembering everything you ate in the last 3 or longer is a bit hard for most peole.
Many times can a tricky task to tract down the source.
Worse the culprit is most times long gone.
Both times I got salmonella it was from soft ice cream. The ice cream had an off favor but didn't taste bad.
Yes, well... days latter I had my answer.
The off favor plus incubation time and it was the off season made it pretty probable the ice cream was to blame.
If had multiple people get sick that all ate the same thing there, that's a damn good indication.
Many times in a container of food only a corner etc is the source so even though many ate food from it only one might get sick.
Just saying it's not clean cut many times; most people don't have clue of the types of food poisoning, vectors, incubation periods etc.
Toxins from molds and fungus can also cause food poisoning symptoms.
Once got nailed by some green mold growing in a fresh container of yogurt. I shook it up before opening and didn't see it mixed in. Spat it out when it had a bleach like taste.
Too late, the small amount I ate made me sick a day latter.
After which I looked before shaking it up
giardia lamblia is one of the more common and disgusting ones caused by infected workers not properly washing their hands after taking a shit.