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UER Forum > Rookie Forum > Lock Picking: Ethics/Advice (Viewed 4975 times)
Noisavni 


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Lock Picking: Ethics/Advice
< on 12/12/2020 4:02 PM >
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Hello Everybody!

Recently I've been attempting to gain access to a location, and I've been able to locate plenty of doorways and access points throughout my numerous google earth sessions and investigation trips to the site. However, every doorway I come across has the same issue: Locked. I have yet to find a doorway that will allow me entry that hasn't been locked, and while I'm still looking, I've decided to look into less scrupulous ways of getting into the site, particularly lock picking.

BUT!

I decided to come here for some advice, as I have several questions about the practice with regards to UE.

1) Is it Ethical?
I've been doing some research on lock picking, and from what I've read it sounds like you shouldn't try to pick a door thats often used when you're just starting out, as it could break. With the 'take nothing but pictures' policy, I'm not entirely sure if I'd be able to get into the site without some risk of breaking the lock. So, should I attempt to get better at picking before engaging in this endeavor? Is there always a risk of breaking the lock when lock picking, no matter how good one gets? And if so, how does lock picking fit in with the 'take nothing but pictures' rule?

2) Tips?
I've never seriously looked at lock picking before, so I'm at a loss of where to start. I've read some articles and watched some videos, as well as read some threads on this site, but any and all advice anyone could offer would be grand! Some major questions I have are: What picking set should I buy? How should I practice? When will I know if I'm ready to take on the doorway talked about above? (from what I've read its a lock from the mid 1900's, if that helps)

Thanks in advance for any advice/info!




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Re: Lock Picking: Ethics/Advice
< Reply # 1 on 12/12/2020 6:15 PM >
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I would heavily discourage against lock picking since, if you are caught, it would seem like you are breaking and entering in order to steal instead of "just" trespassing.



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Re: Lock Picking: Ethics/Advice
< Reply # 2 on 12/13/2020 5:29 AM >
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It is ethical if you're able to avoid being caught, or have your intrusion detected in any way, and don't damage the locks.




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Re: Lock Picking: Ethics/Advice
< Reply # 3 on 12/13/2020 6:10 AM >
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It is ethical if you're able to avoid being caught, or have your intrusion detected in any way, and don't damage the locks.


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Re: Lock Picking: Ethics/Advice
< Reply # 4 on 12/13/2020 7:32 AM >
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You would need to be very savage with your picks to "break" a lock so don't worry too much about that for now.

Lockpicking is in my opinion the best way possible to enter a location, no trace, no braking and you can lock it after your done.

You can buy for example this : https://www.sparro...product_p/tux1.htm

You have primarely 2 technique you can use that is called raking and single pinning. Raking is just to randomly make the pins jump to shear line with a pick that have one or severals spike on it that mimick a key.
On cheap locks you will simply open them by raking.


I would suggest to watch bosnian bill on youtube to know what you are doing and it will be faster to understand than me here. https://www.youtube.com/user/bosnianbill
You can also buy transparent practice locks on amazon.

Practice, practice, practice. 90% in lockpicking is the feel of what you are doing so youll need to learn that.


But before going into lockpicking there is a bunch of other method you can use to bypass a door or window without damaging it.
Watch that, you will learn a lot: https://youtu.be/4YYvBLAF4T8

Look for roof access, badly locked windows, high tolerance door lach etc. I'd say i need to lockpick a location 1 time on 10 really.

Do your entry, go drop any tools you have on you, then come back and explore.
(oh and always close/lock back after you)

Be safe, have fun.









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Re: Lock Picking: Ethics/Advice
< Reply # 5 on 12/13/2020 3:09 PM >
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Check up on the laws, in my state being caught with picks on you counts as "criminal intent". Do research (specifically on the lock you intend to defeat), practice a ton. Also Look up "penetration testing" on youtube, often there are ways around the lock.




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Re: Lock Picking: Ethics/Advice
< Reply # 6 on 1/26/2021 3:55 PM >
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Thx everybody, Urban Downfall especially, I'm planning on getting a set and practicing soon!

Sry my reply was so late, I forgot about this thread lol




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