Posted by andrea Through a labret ? No, its too far down. Get a lip peircing if you want a ring. The labret pericing should be done with a fish tale stud, they will show you at the place you get it done...

I don't see why a labret couldn't be done with a ring...another option is a labret stud. Depends on the anatomy, the skill of the piercer, your intended 'look', etc.
This is another pierce I've never had, btw.

The ring would have to be huge to fit a labret. It's too low. You can do a low lip piercing. With a stud it could also pass for a labret, but a true labret piercing cannot use a ring.

Posted by ofberenonehand I have always used saline and it's worked fine for me. This piercer thought saline sounded kind of harsh and seemed to have never heard of people using it. He just recommended the bacitracin. I just figure I'll use both and be on the safe side.

Your body is naturally slightly saline...a 'pro' who thinks that saline water is harsher than bacitracin shouldn't be trusted (opinion). If anything, overcleaning is harsher. I would recommend going back to just saline soaks.

but hey...I'm no piercer. Just had the 'hobby' for ~10 years and picked up a thing or 2 along the way.

Posted by Emma Peel so um, what do you guys do with the gigantic holes in your ears/chins/noses/eyebrows/ mainly the gigantic streched ear lobes... once you plan to get a job? "ooh, ooh! i want the lawyer with th streched-out ear lobes! that looks professional!!!!" i mean.... really. legit question. do you wear bandaids for the rest of your life, continue streching them until youre 90, or just hang around trying to lead your adult life with pencil-holders in your lobes? jw. em

I read about a guy with hugely stretched lobes. He flipped the loop up over his ear and hardly anyone notices.
Read up on Fakir Musafar. He's been a pioneer in body modification/urban primative/etc. He must be in his 60's or 70's now and he's a 'big professional guy' now. There was a huge story about him in RE-Search: Modern Primatives.

Posted by cerebral Your body is naturally slightly saline...a 'pro' who thinks that saline water is harsher than bacitracin shouldn't be trusted (opinion). If anything, overcleaning is harsher. I would recommend going back to just saline soaks. but hey...I'm no piercer. Just had the 'hobby' for ~10 years and picked up a thing or 2 along the way.

I mostly just did saline soaks. I tend to clean piercings less than recommended anyway, but I tried to do 2 or 3 for at least a few minutes a day. For the first couple days I put a bit of bacitracin on. Mostly around the piercing as kind of an anti-bacterial barrier. (this is what he recommended) It's healed surprisingly fast so I mostly just move it around a bit and remove any crust on it.

Sadly it spends most of the time vertical for work.

Posted by ofberenonehand The ring would have to be huge to fit a labret. It's too low. You can do a low lip piercing. With a stud it could also pass for a labret, but a true labret piercing cannot use a ring.

I guess this leads to the question: where does the labret range end and the lip pierce range begin?

What's the difference between a high labret and a low lip?
What do you call a, um, labret pierce with a ring in it?

...btw, I'm not intending to sound mean, I think this is great conversation!

True, because even "lip" piercings are technically below the lip. I tend to think of a lip piercing as being an apropriate distance to wear a lip ring and have it nearly hug the lip. (so if you have thick lips it will be a bit farther down, etc...) A relatively tight ring around your lips would give about the apropriate distance from the top of your bottom lip.

I tend to think of the labret as the area past where a ring would reasonably fit. Generally in the area where the teeth and gums meet. The flesh also thins out there so that seems to be a good indication. Another one would be the spot between chin hair and the little tuft below your lip. (obviously this only works for guys and not necessarily all of them)

Posted by ofberenonehand True, because even "lip" piercings are technically below the lip.

My wife had a vertical lip pierce. She doesn't have particularly big lips, either. It went in where we would say a lip pierce goes, but then goes up. It used to be on the Captive Elements website. I haven't been to their shop since they moved from Lake Street to some northwest suburb. Jock used to work there. He did 2 1/2 of my pierces. He was the one that helped me with my second frenum. I knew him before Captive Elements ever opened.

edit: just checked the website...her pic is no longer there. and the shop's in Blaine....and Jock no longer works there.

Posted by cerebral My wife had a vertical lip pierce. She doesn't have particularly big lips, either. It went in where we would say a lip pierce goes, but then goes up.

I had one of those for a while, but not because it was pierced that way. I was dumb enough to use a ring too small on a new piercing.

You know a lot about local shops here. Any recommendations for people who are good with caligraphy or script?

Posted by ofberenonehand I had one of those for a while, but not because it was pierced that way. I was dumb enough to use a ring too small on a new piercing. You know a lot about local shops here. Any recommendations for people who are good with caligraphy or script?

I *knew* a lot about local shops...I have no tattoos (yet) but my wife and my ex's are tattooed...none with script, though. None that I would recommend, but mainly because I wasn't interested in script. I recommend shopping around, checking people's albums (if nothing else because it's fun and interesting). Also if you see someone who has a style like you want, ask them.

Posted by ofberenonehand The ring would have to be huge to fit a labret. It's too low. You can do a low lip piercing. With a stud it could also pass for a labret, but a true labret piercing cannot use a ring.

well they don't peirce the labret low anymore because its bad for your gums. its pierced right under the lip so it really easy to put a ring through it. i know cause my sister did that.

Posted by canadianpsycho17 well they don't peirce the labret low anymore because its bad for your gums. its pierced right under the lip so it really easy to put a ring through it. i know cause my sister did that.

I don't know who "they" are, but I bet I could get it done low. It may be typical for the placement to be bad for the gums, but it's still anatomy-dependant...and probably jewelry dependant, too.

Gum recession... wouldn't jewellery with a smaller backing help? Mmm, but if you are really scared of loosing your gums then don't get a tongue piercing aswell or anything oral. But for me, I wouldn't worry about it until I see a change, if gum recession starts to happen, I would immediately retire my piercing or consult a piercer. I mean there are many problems/ risks/ whatever that goes with each piercing! But also having a lip piercing..... can cause tooth abrasion!

Posted by cerebral I don't know who "they" are, but I bet I could get it done low. It may be typical for the placement to be bad for the gums, but it's still anatomy-dependant...and probably jewelry dependant, too.

well yeah you could get it done low, but you could get it under the lip aswell allowing you to put a ring through it.

umm...lipper!

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Posted by Jono! umm...lipper! click to view

Hey thats really cool

Closer to the edge, that's cool... I never saw anyone with that. I actually wanted that but at the corner of my lip

My most recent would be both of my ears gauged from nothing to 4 in about 3 weeks.

I did a 18 to an 8 once in one day... that hurt like a bitch and my ear was pulsing.

Don't stretch too much. I went from 8 gauge to nearly an inch in a month and a half. Bad blow out. It ain't pretty.


*edit* I mean too fast. Stretch as much as you want as long as you do it slowly.