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Reinstall
< on 7/9/2005 2:49 PM >
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I just wiped my server HDD, and Im going to reinstall windows 98se and windows XP pro, but I dont know what to install first?




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Re: Reinstall
< Reply # 1 on 7/9/2005 3:07 PM >
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I just wiped my server HDD, and Im going to reinstall windows 98se and windows XP pro, but I dont know what to install first?


Froom my past experience, XP is going to overwrite 98se. I'd just put 98se on there and load up on security. IMHO the only two decent home user operating systems windows has come out with are 98 and 2kPro. But since it is a server, you should pick up linux at http://www.linuxiso.org/ and mess around with it. Linux is going to be the way of the future, might as well get used to it now.

EDIT: MAndrake is probably the most userfriendly linux edition out there, so i recommend starting with them.



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Re: Reinstall
< Reply # 2 on 7/9/2005 4:31 PM >
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Do 98se first if you want both. Just make sure you have separate partitions for each. Sorry Sinister Crayon, but you are incorrect. If you install XP second and chose a separate partition it will see 98 and add it to the boot menu automatically. If you install 98 second it will remove the XP boot menu. This goes for all MS OSes. Win 9X/ME do not have a boot menu and will blow away the bootsector when installed. NT/2K/XP/2K3 will if possible add other Windows versions they find to their boot menus.




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Re: Reinstall
< Reply # 3 on 7/9/2005 5:08 PM >
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Do 98se first if you want both. Just make sure you have separate partitions for each. Sorry Sinister Crayon, but you are incorrect. If you install XP second and chose a separate partition it will see 98 and add it to the boot menu automatically. If you install 98 second it will remove the XP boot menu. This goes for all MS OSes. Win 9X/ME do not have a boot menu and will blow away the bootsector when installed. NT/2K/XP/2K3 will if possible add other Windows versions they find to their boot menus.


Well, I didn't think he was partitioning the drive. My bad. I'm not the brightest Crayon in the box.




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Re: Reinstall
< Reply # 4 on 7/9/2005 7:57 PM >
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Well, I didn't think he was partitioning the drive. My bad. I'm not the brightest Crayon in the box.


Oh we figuired that one out early on

Just kidding man.

Yeah, All NT OS's will add all other operating systems to the boot menu. Quite handy acctually.




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Re: Reinstall
< Reply # 5 on 7/9/2005 8:26 PM >
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Im having a problem, in Fdisk (im making the partitions for both OS) it saids my total harddrive space is 48935MB which only equals like 47GB but my HDD is a 120GB segate. Theres no partitions, logicals drives or anything on it yet after I wiped it. Second if I have to install 98se first it will install on partition C:\\, but I want it too install on E:\\ (or what ever F-Disk gives it), becuase I will be using xp pro mainly and I want it on C:\\. If you have multiple partitions does windows 98se setup ask you which partition you want it on?



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Re: Reinstall
< Reply # 6 on 7/9/2005 9:28 PM >
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Ok,
1) If I remember correctly, Win98 needs to be "C:", you do not have a choice.
2) If fdisk doesn't see all the space, you'll likely need a partitioning program that does. Download the Ultimate Boot CD http://www.ultimatebootcd.com/ and use one of it's partition utilities.




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< Reply # 7 on 7/9/2005 11:32 PM >
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It's not a good idea to be using DOS Fdisk to be partitioning a drive like that. I don't think Fdisk can even see all that space. Use WinXP to partition out the drive. What you can do is basically fake out an install. Put in a WinXP disk, get to the point where you initially setup the partitions, set those up, if you want your Win98 OS to see your WinXP partition then install both partitions as Fat32. Point the WinXP installation to the D drive and let it get to the point where it's starting to copy files over. Then do a force restart, drop in your 98 disk and install to the C drive. Once that's installed go ahead and drop in your XP disk. This time don't do anything with the partitions and install to the D drive. I realize this sounds like a kooky way of doing it, but I've done it before this way and it does actually work.



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Re: Reinstall
< Reply # 8 on 7/9/2005 11:33 PM >
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Im having a problem, in Fdisk (im making the partitions for both OS) it saids my total harddrive space is 48935MB which only equals like 47GB but my HDD is a 120GB segate. Theres no partitions, logicals drives or anything on it yet after I wiped it. Second if I have to install 98se first it will install on partition C:\\, but I want it too install on E:\\ (or what ever F-Disk gives it), becuase I will be using xp pro mainly and I want it on C:\\. If you have multiple partitions does windows 98se setup ask you which partition you want it on?


Ok. First off 98's FDISK does not support drives bigger than 64 GB (why it's stopping at 47 I don't know). Your best bet is to use a partitioning program or another PC to setup the partitions first. Though it is possible to run 98 on your E: drive, it's far more trouble than it's worth. Put XP on the higher partition, it won't care. Or just forget 98 entirely unless you really need it.

EDIT - Yes Kenshin's way will work too.



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Re: Reinstall
< Reply # 9 on 7/10/2005 3:59 PM >
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Yea im forgetting 98se, I was gonna use it if XP ever gets so messed up that I have to fix it through 98se. Ive never gotten xp that messed up though, I have gotten 98se messed up that bad though, so Im not gonna waste harddrive space with it.




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