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| | | Re: UE Dealing with police < Reply # 2 on 11/1/2005 2:40 AM > | Reply with Quote
| | | I found this interesting. I hope someone else will too. The following is from The Complete Idiots Guide to Criminal Investigation by Alan Axelrod and Guy Antinozzi. "The trained investigator is a difficult person to be around. The children of such a person can always be sure of some type of interrogation upon returning home after being out: "Where are you? Who were you with?" The assumption is that everyone is lying, at least a little bit. Whether or not this assumption is warranted is arguable. What is not arguable is that a generous helping of skepticism can go a long way in testing the veracity of another person. It's amazing the things people lie about. The secrets we wish kept are often of such a trivial nature that one would think they mean nothing. To the police investigator and that is what a good investigator needs to be--these lies are the door that open to the truth. If you can get to what people are lying about, then you can get to the truth: Who is being protected and why? What movie is there for not coming clean? These are the questions the experienced investigator seeks to answer. Miranda They go into the whole bit about police having to give you your miranda rights. If they don't tell you your miranda rights while in custody and under interrogation, your statements can not be used against you in court. The main things to take from this is that you have the right to remain silent and you have the right to a lawyer. Even if the police come up to you on the street, and start asking you questions, you don't have to answer them. The only thing you're legally obligated to tell them is your name if they ask.
Productive Questioning One of the most valuable lessons an investigator learns is to avoid asking questions to which he or she does not already know the answer. It is critical to direct the flow of information. Rare is the subject who freely divulges truthful, useful and concise information. It is far more common for the suspect to talk around the questions. This can lead to the truth, but not without some nudging. Often the first task is simply to get the person talking. The detective must figure out what sort of persona he or she needs to project in order to get through to the suspect-- a parental figure, a confessor, an intimidator, or even something of a friend and ally. The detective tries to be whatever it takes to get the tongue wagging. In this role playing, the suspect often unknowingly assists the interrogator. Appealing to the bravado, pride, machismo, the need for understanding, or insecurity the suspect exhibits is often effective in overcoming a reluctance to talk. If interrogators should be good questioners, they must be even better listeners. Interrogators avoid question that produce nothing more than a yes or no. Instead, they ask open-ended questions that keep the conversation going. Look me in the eye Interrogators use many methods to assess the truthfulness of a suspect. Kinesics is one effective method all experienced investigators use, whether they call it by that name or not. Kinesics is the formal study of non-verbal communication, what is familiarly called "body language". There is a lot oto be learned from the suspect's movements, expressions, and gestures in response to questions or what psychologists call other "stressors". The suspect may touch his nose, touch his mouth, grab his neck. He may cross his arms over his chest, or may laugh inappropriately. He may avoid eye contact or chew on his lip when being spoken to. Various protective and evasive movements are innate human responses to stressors. They are hardly proof of guilt, but they are indicators of a lack of truthfulness. In jurisdictions that encompass culturally diverse populations, the investigator must also be aware of how culture and tradition may influence gestures. For example, in some cultural traditions, it is considered impolite to look someone in the eye. The interrogator needs to be certain that a suspect who appears evasive is not merely acting as a result of upbringing and background."
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| | | Re: UE Dealing with police < Reply # 14 on 12/5/2005 3:59 PM > | Reply with Quote
| | | http://www.omnipre...ost.org/ch9txt.htmEcodefense If You Are Arrested If, despite all of your precautions, you fall into the hands of the police, remain calm and collected. What you say at this point may well make the difference between being freed and imprisoned. When dealing with police, be polite. An angry cop will go out of his way to make life difficult for you. However, being polite does not mean you have to acquiesce in everything the cop wants. Don't be intimidated by the uniform and gun. Never (if you still have any say about it) consent to a search of your person or vehicle. When asked, politely but firmly say "no." Most police are well aware of their power to intimidate. They know that putting someone in handcuffs or driving them "downtown" is sometimes all it takes to make a suspect cooperate fully in incriminating herself. The shock of arrest, isolation from friends and family, and well practiced questioning are all designed to force the suspect's cooperation, confession, and the implication of others. If you are arrested, do not talk to police until you have talked with your lawyer. You will be read your "Miranda" rights only if police officers wish' to question you. Do not be lulled into casual conversation; this is a standard method for lowering a suspect's defenses and causing a slip of the tongue. Your only safe answer to questioning is to politely tell the police that you have nothing to say until you have talked to a lawyer. Then say nothing, not even small talk. This measure alone may spare you from later conviction. Don't believe the cops if they say it's too late at night to get a lawyer. You can call one any time (or else have one appointed when the courts open in the morning). Watch out for the "nice" cop who wishes you would cooperate for your own good. His partner will often come on with the "tough guy" approach to make the "nice" cop seem friendlier still. Another classic ploy is to tell you that "we know everything, anyway." If the police really knew everything, they wouldn't waste time asking you questions. Sometimes the police will reveal a few bits of information and tell you that they are only trying to fill in "a few minor details." Perhaps the most common ploy is to tell you that it will all go easier for you if you cooperate. In reality, your cooperation will only make it easier for them to convict you. Never forget that the interrogating officer is a trained professional, in his own element, and that you are out of yours. If you try to talk your way out of trouble, you will probably only make it worse. Say nothing until you've seen a lawyer. Even should you slip up and reveal something damaging to the police, you are under no obligation to continue talking or answering questions. In such an instance, when you come to your senses, stop talking immediately. Before undertaking serious monkeywrenching, read up on a few pertinent points of law. Most important, read if An Agent Knocks, available free from the Center for Constitutional Rights, 666 Broadway, NY, NY 10012. This booklet gives the best and most accurate advice available on your rights to refuse to talk. A book well worth reading is The Outlaw's Bible, by E. X. Boozhie. (In the second edition of Ecodefense, we reported it was available from Circle A Publishers in Arizona for $12.95 postpaid. They seem to no longer be in business. But some folks have ordered it through bookstores like Walden's for $11.95.) It tells you how a few extra precautions may maximize the protection of your "constitutional rights," something most people take for granted until it is too late. -Clarence Darrow FIELD NOTE * Never talk to the FBI. They usually come calling in pairs, and one is carrying a concealed recorder to catch everything you say. Don't try to outwit them. Ask them what they want, then tell them you have nothing to say. Warn your friends immediately after the agents leave, as they may be visited next. But be cautious when warning your friends! You may be under electronic or physical surveillance and the FBI visit may have been designed only to spook you into leading them to your associates. They're crafty devils. Have a planned, innocent-sounding code phrase which you can insert into a pay phone or face-to-face conversation to warn others that law enforcement is snooping around
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| | | | Re: UE Dealing with police < Reply # 19 on 8/29/2008 5:48 AM > | Reply with Quote
| | | Posted by Drooldog Don't say shit thats what you can do. Do not consent to searches and know your rights. My dad is a high ranking cop of 28 years and he used that make you talk and catch you crap all my life. Best way to avoid it, SHUT UP AND SAY NOTHING. You have the right to remain silent. Anything you say CAN and WILL (not maybe) be used against you in a court of law.
| you speak the truth ... answer questions with a simple yes/no answer... do not give more detail than necessary. do not offer anything. I've had to give a statement before involving myself and school and "homemade fireworks" without a lawyer... I dodged getting arrested because everything I had done was protected by 1st amendment. the best they could have come up with was a "breach of peace" however I didn't technically breach the peace... the school chose to yank me out of class and disturb my peace 25 minutes before my study hall... and later on when fighting expulsion I was facing a Disruption of classroom environment/Technical Use AUP violation. I still have civil rights violations made by the school administration against me as well... 2 left years to file suit Never say anything self incriminating repeat DO NOT ADMIT TO ANYTHING!!! repeat DO NOT TALK TO THE POLICE!!!
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