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dirt
Location: Oakland, CA Gender: Male Total Likes: 0 likes
Je suis très aimable et très caustique.
| | | | | Re: Kama Sutra < Reply # 15 on 1/2/2008 2:53 AM > | Reply with Quote
| | | Posted by White Rabbit
I have actually met a lot of women that can't, though. Once and done, just like a guy. A few of those girls even acted like it was some freaky porn-star kind of thing, too, because they'd never had it. I've also known quite a few women that are physically incapable of having a non-self-inflicted orgasm. I've even known a few that have literally never had an orgasm in their life and just flat-out can't have one. You could take a jackhammer to their clit and it still wouldn't do it. Pussy is schizophrenic, man.
| Sorry but this is when my inner feminist calls bullshit. Just because someone has never had something, doesn't mean that they can't. And sometimes jackhammering is the worst thing you want to do. The clit has about 8000 nerve fibers in it's make up, While a penis has half that. And those girls that are "incapable of having a non-self-inflicted orgasms", it's not that they are incapable, it's all a matter of preference. To say that someone is broken because they don't trust their partner to do it right(ie the way they like) is misogynistic.
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| White Rabbit Women's Advocate
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| | | | Re: Kama Sutra < Reply # 16 on 1/2/2008 4:26 AM > | Reply with Quote
| | | Posted by dirt Just because someone has never had something, doesn't mean that they can't. | Okay, fine. I don't know for a fact that they can't. I do know they have never had one in their life and likely never will. That better? And sometimes jackhammering is the worst thing you want to do. | Could you REALLY not tell I was joking there? I'm not actually implying you should jackhammer-style on someone's clit to try and get them off. I just meant that it doesn't seem to matter what "style" you use. And those girls that are "incapable of having a non-self-inflicted orgasms", it's not that they are incapable, it's all a matter of preference. To say that someone is broken because they don't trust their partner to do it right(ie the way they like) is misogynistic.
| It's misogynistic to say that someone can't have a non-self-inflicted orgasm, even though they've tried to with their various partners probably God-knows-how-many times and still haven't been able to do it? Come on, dude. You're being ridiculously nitpicky here. Maybe they can. Maybe they can't. But when you've got a 40 year old woman who's never had an orgasm that she didn't give herself despite her best efforts otherwise, I think you're just arguing semantics in saying it's wrong to say she "can't have" an orgasm. Yeah, you can't know for certain, but preponderance of evidence, etc., and it's just fucking easier to say it that way. And a grown woman who's never had an orgasm (self-inflicted or otherwise) in her life even though she's tried? I'm sorry, I feel just fine in saying someone in that position can't have an orgasm. Not to mention, I've heard some of these girls and women say that about themselves. Whether it be, "I can't have an orgasm," or "I can't have an orgasm during sex" or whatever. So, how it can be misogynistic for me to parrot their own words, no idea. And for that matter, maybe they really can't. For all we know, those handful of women I've met over the years who have trouble orgasming or never have at all have legitimate medical or physical reasons for not being able to. I mean, I can't believe it's ALL psychological. Because if it is, how come then I have NEVER met a guy--not a single goddamn one--who has had a problem orgasming? Anyways, I don't know why you're being all nitpicky about this. I have been with a lot of women, and I am just relaying what I have personally learned from them over the years. Edit to add: Actually, I just remembered, I did once know a guy who had trouble orgasming. But, that was because he had just started taking some antidepressant, and that was one of the weird sexual side effects.
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| Shael
Location: Witherbee, NY. Gender: Female Total Likes: 7 likes
Baaaaah.
| | | Re: Kama Sutra < Reply # 17 on 1/17/2008 9:30 PM > | Reply with Quote
| | | It's inhibition, pure and simple. That much I'm almost positive of. Unless there's some kind of nerve damage, clitoral amputation or there's some kind of other problem, most likely it's that they don't have any problem other than what's between their ears. Masturbation is supposed to help with it, but there are some women that are just, well, I wanna say that they're just so frigid that they can't get off with someone else touching them. Or even get off with someone else in the room. I'm not being nitpicky, but the biggest problem with women in general is inhibition. That stems from culture. Sex in America is considered dirty. I noticed it when I was in Montreal a year or so ago, walking on St. Catherine street at 8am on a Sunday morning, families with little kids were going to church and walking by a particular strip club that's pretty famous around here and not batting an eyelash. Here, places like that are left on the outskirts of town and best not talked about. Same with even instructional books, video tapes, etc. Things that could help are shunned and considered dirty, elsewhere, they're considered normal. We're a product of our culture, at least some of us are, but hell, I like sex, I love sex and let those who say it's dirty or profane go to hell. Shael
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| | | | Re: Kama Sutra < Reply # 18 on 1/17/2008 11:13 PM > | Reply with Quote
| | | Posted by Shael It's inhibition, pure and simple.
| I agree a few were, but lots of them weren't. I firmly believe that. I mean, I once had a girl that could only orgasm if she fucked you sideways (like she's on her side in relation to you). And that was with any guy, not just me. She had no inhibition problem. If she did, she wouldn't have been able to orgasm while fucking me in that wacky position. But that was the only way she could get off (during sex). And I've known some older women who were absolutely uninhibited about sex, but still had orgasm issues. It didn't seem to have anything to do with inhibition (because many of them had no problem orgasming from oral sex, which is arguably more unflattering than just sex). It's like... Well, the only way I know to describe it is that it's like a dick inside them just wasn't enough to do it for them. They needed more, outer stimulation or something. Or just one particular thing that does it for them that you can't do just perfect without doing it to yourself, or whatever. It's just different from guys. You can pretty much do the same thing to guys to get them all off. But with women, it's like, their pussies are combination locks and they all have a different combination that you gotta figure out. I agree, though, that the women who have never had an orgasm in their life (self-inflicted or otherwise) probably have either inhibition issues or something wrong down there. Because they ought to at least be able to achieve it by doing it to them self, you would think.
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