i've got to ask, do you think that when Toyota built the Corolla Trueno Apex that it would ever have the cult-like following it has now?

Makes you wonder if some cars just have are built to have a cult following them around?

of course.

Why else would car companies make limited edition models of their cars


Also, i'd say all Subaru's pretty much have a cult following ;)

Posted by SoNaive of course. Why else would car companies make limited edition models of their cars Also, i'd say all Subaru's pretty much have a cult following ;)

Most notable cults that you wouldn't think so...
FWD GM
Ford Escorts
stuff like that... Escort heads are rabid!

Posted by Samurai Most notable cults that you wouldn't think so... FWD GM Ford Escorts stuff like that... Escort heads are rabid!

The Caravan cult is pretty odd; you would have a heart attack what some of them do, Samarui!

I've always enjoyed being around the aircooled VW crowd... just one big happy family.

The Porsche crowd has 2 different types... the guys with "real" Porsches like 911s, 356s, 914s (YES the 914 is a real Porsche, VW or not) seem to be a pretty decent crowd, but the guys with wannabe Porsches like 924s and 944 (Sorry if I offend anyone with that comment, but these cars are fucking awful and don't deserve the nameplate. I worked on Porsches exclusively for 2 years.) are generally VERY pretentious "Look at me, I have a Porsche" type people.

Having said that... would I buy a 924 or 944? Yeah. Yeah I probably would.

I left the 928 out of both of these groups, those owners seem to be hit and miss. And if you're wondering... I LOVE the german Camaro.




...do I generalize too much? lol

Posted by bandi I've always enjoyed being around the aircooled VW crowd... just one big happy family. The Porsche crowd has 2 different types... the guys with "real" Porsches like 911s, 356s, 914s (YES the 914 is a real Porsche, VW or not) seem to be a pretty decent crowd, but the guys with wannabe Porsches like 924s and 944 (Sorry if I offend anyone with that comment, but these cars are fucking awful and don't deserve the nameplate. I worked on Porsches exclusively for 2 years.) are generally VERY pretentious "Look at me, I have a Porsche" type people. Having said that... would I buy a 924 or 944? Yeah. Yeah I probably would. I left the 928 out of both of these groups, those owners seem to be hit and miss. And if you're wondering... I LOVE the german Camaro. ...do I generalize too much? lol

there is a kid in Ticonderoga NY with a black Porsche 924 NA and he just thinks he is the absolute fastest thing on the planet... until a little red Evo pummeled him and then he picked a fight with a certain blue Cobalt SS we all know and love...
Never pick a fight with a supercharged car on a hill unless you're packing big cubes or forced induction yourself.

I love the pandas(ae86) around here they are called pandas cause some have the black/white color combo. I have been searching for a clean one for about year with no luck.

Posted by Spence I love the pandas(ae86) around here they are called pandas cause some have the black/white color combo. I have been searching for a clean one for about year with no luck.

I can get you like 10 of them for $2.99 each down here in socal.

Posted by big dave I can get you like 10 of them for $2.99 each down here in socal.

don't tease me Dave.

I'll drive one out for you if you pay gas....

Yeah seriously. I should run a car finding service here in SoCal

How cheaply can you find 75-78 Mustang II's???

Posted by bandi I've always enjoyed being around the aircooled VW crowd... just one big happy family. The Porsche crowd has 2 different types... the guys with "real" Porsches like 911s, 356s, 914s (YES the 914 is a real Porsche, VW or not) seem to be a pretty decent crowd, but the guys with wannabe Porsches like 924s and 944 (Sorry if I offend anyone with that comment, but these cars are fucking awful and don't deserve the nameplate. I worked on Porsches exclusively for 2 years.) are generally VERY pretentious "Look at me, I have a Porsche" type people. Having said that... would I buy a 924 or 944? Yeah. Yeah I probably would. I left the 928 out of both of these groups, those owners seem to be hit and miss. And if you're wondering... I LOVE the german Camaro. ...do I generalize too much? lol

I agree the 924 is really more of an Audi than a Porsche, but the 944 is a fucking great car, plain and simple. Sure it's hard to maintain, but the performance is amazing, especially the Turbo and S2 models. I watched a 944 Turbo smoke some kind of hopped up 2000 Mustang GT because it was so much faster through the turns. I don't want a Porsche so I can show off, I want one because I fucking love the cars and their performance. I don't care if your front wheel drive American car is faster than mine in a dead straight line, mine is still a hell of a lot more fun on those twisty mountain roads where sports cars belong.
A 911 is still better though, haha. If I could afford it, I would have one right now. But I'll have to wait a while before that happens...

as i stated in the urbexmobiles thread, be careful what American car you pick a fight with on a twisty road, you just might get a surprise...
You might get your little Teutonic ass handed to you.
We ain't talkin' 'bout no Cavaliers or Escorts here, baby.


Did you see the new Cobalt SS Turbo? It pulls 0.92g on the skidpad...
here's the linky to the road & track article:
http://www.roadand...=2&article_id=6881

highlights:
Price As Tested $23,490
MPG 22 city/30 highway/26.0 average
0–60 mph 5.5 sec.
Slalom 72.4 mph
Quarter Mile 14.0 sec. @ 101.8 mph
Skidpad 0.92g
60–0-mph Braking 117 ft.
Tank Capacity 13.2 gal.
Theoretical Maximum Range 396 miles
Cost to Fill $52.80
EPA Estimated Annual Fuel Cost $2364

Do you know if the turbo version will be available in Canada? For the first time I might actually and seriously consider GM if it is. I want to change car end of Aug.

Posted by Professor Chaos Do you know if the turbo version will be available in Canada? For the first time I might actually and seriously consider GM if it is. I want to change car end of Aug.

I don't see why it wouldn't be... you guys had the supercharged version as well as us.
the engine has been proved in the HHR SS, the Solstice GXP and the Sky Redline.
the chassis/suspension is outstanding and the transmission issues have been cured... this new SS is going to be an evil little bastard.

Posted by Strelok I agree the 924 is really more of an Audi than a Porsche, but the 944 is a fucking great car, plain and simple. Sure it's hard to maintain, but the performance is amazing, especially the Turbo and S2 models. I watched a 944 Turbo smoke some kind of hopped up 2000 Mustang GT because it was so much faster through the turns. I don't want a Porsche so I can show off, I want one because I fucking love the cars and their performance. I don't care if your front wheel drive American car is faster than mine in a dead straight line, mine is still a hell of a lot more fun on those twisty mountain roads where sports cars belong. A 911 is still better though, haha. If I could afford it, I would have one right now. But I'll have to wait a while before that happens...

N/A 924 is actually quicker than the N/A 944... identical car aside from body styling, and it weighs much less.

They're not even that much of a bear to maintain if they've been looked after... just make sure the timing/balance shaft belts have been done, and done right.

Oh, and it's the biggest pain in the ass clutch I've ever changed in my life.

Posted by Samurai as i stated in the urbexmobiles thread, be careful what American car you pick a fight with on a twisty road, you just might get a surprise... You might get your little Teutonic ass handed to you. We ain't talkin' 'bout no Cavaliers or Escorts here, baby. Did you see the new Cobalt SS Turbo? It pulls 0.92g on the skidpad... here's the linky to the road & track article: http://www.roadand...=2&article_id=6881 highlights: Price As Tested $23,490 MPG 22 city/30 highway/26.0 average 0–60 mph 5.5 sec. Slalom 72.4 mph Quarter Mile 14.0 sec. @ 101.8 mph Skidpad 0.92g 60–0-mph Braking 117 ft. Tank Capacity 13.2 gal. Theoretical Maximum Range 396 miles Cost to Fill $52.80 EPA Estimated Annual Fuel Cost $2364

More expensive than a BMW ///M3, roughly same numbers, less headroom for performance, warranty restricted, worse gas mileage (not sure how that works, since my ///M3 nabs 25~26 city 30~32 highway with a heavy foot and has 2 more cylinders and 1.2L more displacement.....) but yeah.... not convinced....

Posted by Samurai as i stated in the urbexmobiles thread, be careful what American car you pick a fight with on a twisty road, you just might get a surprise... You might get your little Teutonic ass handed to you. We ain't talkin' 'bout no Cavaliers or Escorts here, baby. Did you see the new Cobalt SS Turbo? It pulls 0.92g on the skidpad... here's the linky to the road & track article: http://www.roadand...=2&article_id=6881 highlights: Price As Tested $23,490 MPG 22 city/30 highway/26.0 average 0–60 mph 5.5 sec. Slalom 72.4 mph Quarter Mile 14.0 sec. @ 101.8 mph Skidpad 0.92g 60–0-mph Braking 117 ft. Tank Capacity 13.2 gal. Theoretical Maximum Range 396 miles Cost to Fill $52.80 EPA Estimated Annual Fuel Cost $2364

*cough* front wheel drive *cough*

For that money, you could get a pretty good used 996 Carrera

Horse Power @ RPM: 325@6800
Curb Weight: 3077.5 lbs.
skidpad .97
Quarter Mile time: 12.8 sec.
0-60 time: 4.3 sec.
Top Speed: 180 mph
Displacement: 3596 Cc
Torque @ RPM: 4250
Engine: 3.6 liter Flat-6
Transmission: 6-Speed Manual

not everyone wants a BMW.
personally, i mean they are ok, but i've never been attracted to anything german other than maybe a classic 911. or, heaven forbid, the VW Corrado.

I'll buy Chevrolets and GM's until there is no Chevrolet or other GM's made and then I'll keep buying used ones.

and there's nothing wrong with front wheel drive.
deal with it, strudelboys.