On the way to the cabin, an F250 comes out of nowhere and your Subaru is totaled. Now what?

Option 1: Unlikely. Mad sticky tires and lots of boost = accident avoidance.

Option 2: Shoot the asshole in the F250, because he deserves it. Transfer equipment to his truck. Continue driving.

Option 3: I cut down to bare essentials and ride a bike the rest of the way (why not throw my bike in too. It fits.)

Option 4: If I end up not going alone (a possibility) I transfer everything to my Jeep being driven by person 2 behind me. Continue driving.

Option 5: Hoof it and hope I can shoot faster than highway zombies can run.

So this is something that started as a very simple question one night while myself and another soldier sat on a checkpoint for an 8 hour shift one night. By the time it was done, the conversation and planning had gone on for over a month and had been picked up by the entire platoon. And here we go....

So your in your own and the news starts ringing out. The dead are rising and the only thing taking them down for good is a head shot. You knew this was coming. Time to put your plan into action.

In my house, I already have a shotgun, a 45 automatic pistol, and ammo for both. I've got a box or two of MRE's just in case I get stuck and have to hole up for a bit. During the first initial panic while everyone is still mostly in denial and running around like chickens with thier heads cut off, load up the truck and head to the closest Wal-Mart. Once you get there, use your firearms to maintain order as much as possible and get the doors sealed as best you can. Lock em and barricade them with whatever you can. Use that time to start gathering supplies and taking them up to the roof. Walmart has roof access inside through a ladder that leads to a locking hatch. Start hauling up anything you could possibly need. Making sure your main areas of focus are canned goods, camping supplies, and guns and ammo. If zombies start getting in, get up onto the roof and close the hatch. This is where the plan starts to waiver based on who actually makes it.

In the event help can not get to you, your still ok. Zombies can't climb ladders. So if your supplies start to run low, just open the hatch and use the shotgun to clear out everything under you. They will keep filing towards the ladder in an effort to get to you so just shoot and then wait for a new group to fill in the gap until zombies stop showing up. Then go back down the ladder and get what you need. Any zombies still in the store, no big deal. You have long straight aisles to defend yourself against a slow moving enemy. Even if they overwhelm you and you get stuck in an aisle with zombies on both ends, just climb the shelves and get a few rows over.

Hopefully it won't come to that though. At the time this plan was made, we had three people the know how to pilot Blackhawk helicopters. There is a National Guard installation near us that houses these glorious machines. We checked and there IS enough clearance on a Wal-Mart roof to land one. So one of these gentleman are to get to the airfield and get one of these in the air. They knew the closest Wal-Marts to all of us that were included in the plan. We were to mark the roof with paint (also found at Wal-Mart) if we had made it there. Load up in the Blackhawk and make our way to Paris Island.

Once there, use our knowledge of explosives and other wonderful toys to blow the bridges leading to the island. Now we have an island fortress with a perimeter fence, fuel, generators, MRE's to last many lifetimes, weapons, ammo and anything else your little heart could desire.

Well, there's my plan. Anyone suggestions? This plan is always up for change here and there.

Posted by Karamar Better place to go than a prison or wal-mart or hick town. http://www.battle-...aft-carrier-01.jpg Get rid of the jets and keep the helo's, learn to fly them or make friends with some pilots. Also make some friends with some mechanics and engineers. Get rid of all the junk that you won't need and stock it up. Plenty of space for stuff in the bomb mags for what ever you want. All you got to do is take one over or let it get infected and wait a few weeks to go in and clear out the zombies would take a long time to do though. Would be the best place to hole up for a long time.

You know, I'm actually going to have to go against you on this one. If the virus DID manage to make it onboard, you're screwed. Tight quarters. It would spread very quickly among the population. And it would be a bitch and a half to try and go back through and clear it. 8 million hiding places and dark spots. Ugh.

Posted by Mickael What are your thoughts about a high security prison as a shelter place ? 2 line of fences, a diesel generator stocked with enough fuel for a few weeks, LOTS of weapons (pistols, rifles, shotguns) and people who actually know how to shoot them, an industrial kitchen well stocked with foods,, an hospital that can do pretty much anything that doesn't require major surgery, and all that is located behind 2 layers of 10-foot fences, everything's made out of concrete, no exposed or unsecured door/windows and in a very secluded area, surrounded by edible corn field & farms and stocked with enough water for a few months. And if you have to bail out, there's the armored bus... lol The only possible problem would be running out of ressources (too many people inside) and there's also having to deal with the inmates.

and you know, again, it's a great idea in theory. But first thing is first, your going to have to clear it. And if the virus managed to make it inside, it's going to be a nightmare. Same thing as the aircraft carrier. Tight spaces, dark spaces, and 8 million hidey holes. I would be paranoid in every area that I had "cleared" that I would have missed something somewhere that would eventually get loose after our guard was down because we thought it was clear.

Now granted, it worked great in the Walking Dead. And it IS a good idea. But something that worked out in thier favor was that the majority of the people had been let out. If you come across one where the people there have decided to stay, god only knows who's running the place. Whether or not the "inmates are running the asylum". And you have all those weapons turned on you barring access.

I think if you found one that was pretty much cleared of people before everything bad went down, ok. Great idea. But otherwise, I just don't think it would work out. It would be a huge case by case scenario and not one that I would bet on working out in my favor.

Posted by TheWolfman269 You know, I'm actually going to have to go against you on this one. If the virus DID manage to make it onboard, you're screwed. Tight quarters. It would spread very quickly among the population. And it would be a bitch and a half to try and go back through and clear it. 8 million hiding places and dark spots. Ugh.

Well you are right about the tight quarters but you can section it off, the way that it is compartmentalized makes it easier to secure certain areas not to mention the door are easily secured tight and locked. And the deck below the flight deck has long corridors to shoot straight down with a lot of knee knockers for zombies to trip over giving you plenty of time to move. Plus think of all the satisfying ways to kill a zombie on-board there you can crush them in the hydraulics of a weapons elevator hatch/door. Or better yet manually open the hatches in the hanger bay and let lose the brakes on the elevator car and funnel them to fall into the elevator shaft. Catapult them from the flight deck. The possibilities are endless on there.

Posted by Karamar Well you are right about the tight quarters but you can section it off, the way that it is compartmentalized makes it easier to secure certain areas not to mention the door are easily secured tight and locked. And the deck below the flight deck has long corridors to shoot straight down with a lot of knee knockers for zombies to trip over giving you plenty of time to move. Plus think of all the satisfying ways to kill a zombie on-board there you can crush them in the hydraulics of a weapons elevator hatch/door. Or better yet manually open the hatches in the hanger bay and let lose the brakes on the elevator car and funnel them to fall into the elevator shaft. Catapult them from the flight deck. The possibilities are endless on there.

ooh. Forgot about the knee knockers. Seems like that would just line em up and stop em. Just leaves a new game of how many can I shoot in a straight line. lol. Forgot about the heavy doors too. I think this may win out over a prison. If nothing else, it may just win due to the catapult. lol.

This isn't a personal plan but in the case of undead slow walkers I imagine the government coming up with some type of spray glue that hardens or gets stickier when exposed to sun or air. Or be put on streets to turn them into giant strips of flypaper.

Also no one has mentioned the type found in the movie "The Crazies" where a government chemical agent turns people into homicidal maniacs - who are perfectly able to reason their way around an obstacle and get at you, use guns, weapons, etc. This type of "zombie" would be pretty difficult to deal with - one would have to be better armed.

Posted by Esoterik This isn't a personal plan but in the case of undead slow walkers I imagine the government coming up with some type of spray glue that hardens or gets stickier when exposed to sun or air. Or be put on streets to turn them into giant strips of flypaper. Also no one has mentioned the type found in the movie "The Crazies" where a government chemical agent turns people into homicidal maniacs - who are perfectly able to reason their way around an obstacle and get at you, use guns, weapons, etc. This type of "zombie" would be pretty difficult to deal with - one would have to be better armed.

Actually, the military is working on a idea similar to this for riot control. If you've ever used that spray insulation when working on a house, same concept. It sprays out as a think foam and then hardens very quickly when exposed to air. Last I heard they were still working on a delivery method as the original design made them look like flamethrowers and that just didn't look good when placed on the world stage by the news groups.

And while I haven't seen "the Crazies" it sounds like that would just be a regular old war. Seems like you could just kill those folks however and you wouldn't need a head shot. Am I right here?

Posted by TheWolfman269 Actually, the military is working on a idea similar to this for riot control. If you've ever used that spray insulation when working on a house, same concept. It sprays out as a think foam and then hardens very quickly when exposed to air. Last I heard they were still working on a delivery method as the original design made them look like flamethrowers and that just didn't look good when placed on the world stage by the news groups. And while I haven't seen "the Crazies" it sounds like that would just be a regular old war. Seems like you could just kill those folks however and you wouldn't need a head shot. Am I right here?

lol a riot weapon that looked like a flamethrower would disperse a crowd in no time!

You should watch the Crazies - they turn homicidal but as the days go by they get sicker and sicker, vomit blood, etc and eventually die - kinda like 28 DL - they just act a little more normal. It's that classic formula - normal people caught between the infected and the military bent on erasing their mistake!

But yeah, in the Crazies they are infected humans like 28 DL and die in normal ways - no head shot required.

And I think that becomes the main problem with zombies. Yes, they are a slow moving mass. That is enough of a problem. But it is a slow moving mass that to take em out, you have to hit one of the hardest parts to hit on a moving target. Even a slow moving one. I'm a pretty damn good shot. But even I would have a hard time repeatedly hitting a melon sized target that is slowing moving in a direction and swaying back and forth.

Posted by TheWolfman269 And I think that becomes the main problem with zombies. Yes, they are a slow moving mass. That is enough of a problem. But it is a slow moving mass that to take em out, you have to hit one of the hardest parts to hit on a moving target. Even a slow moving one. I'm a pretty damn good shot. But even I would have a hard time repeatedly hitting a melon sized target that is slowing moving in a direction and swaying back and forth.

Yes, headshots are the only way to kill the undead, but not the only way to stop them. A broken leg isn't just a figure of speech; it's a fucking leg that is broken. As in, it doesn't work anymore. Regardless of the level of pain you are capable of registering, a shattered femur or severed spine renders anything essentially immobile. So quickly spraying waist-level fire into an approaching onslaught is a far better idea than lining up headshots for bonus points.

http://www.cracked...ll-get-you-killed/

Posted by TheVicariousVadder Yes, headshots are the only way to kill the undead, but not the only way to stop them. A broken leg isn't just a figure of speech; it's a fucking leg that is broken. As in, it doesn't work anymore. Regardless of the level of pain you are capable of registering, a shattered femur or severed spine renders anything essentially immobile. So quickly spraying waist-level fire into an approaching onslaught is a far better idea than lining up headshots for bonus points. http://www.cracked...ll-get-you-killed/

Oh don't get me wrong, I agree that it'll drop em. But killing them is the end goal. Little bastards will still just keep crawling right along. I would almost rather have them still standing because then I know they are a threat. Rather than just be walking around that area days later and one of the little bastards bites into my ankle from underneath a car where it's been for days.

Posted by TheWolfman269 Oh don't get me wrong, I agree that it'll drop em. But killing them is the end goal. Little bastards will still just keep crawling right along. I would almost rather have them still standing because then I know they are a threat. Rather than just be walking around that area days later and one of the little bastards bites into my ankle from underneath a car where it's been for days.

It is easier to shoot it in the head when it is crawling around on the ground.

Posted by Karamar It is easier to shoot it in the head when it is crawling around on the ground.

Rule No. 2: Double tap.

Agreed. But I have to see him first. Don't get me wrong, I'm not saying it's not a good idea when faced with a mob. Spray at waist level and then go through and stab em all on the head or smash em with an E-tool (the best handheld zombie weapon). Just saying you would have to be careful and make sure everything by where your fixin to put your foot is dead for good.

i have been working on a plan for quite sometime now. my old elementary school is perfectly designed to ward off zombie hordes. this place will be home. there is a cafeteria for food, a library so we dont go insane and an interior courtyard perfectly suited for gardening for long term food stuffs. roof access for defense and large fenced off areas. also, all the interior doors are solid wood with 6" x 12" metal wire reinforced glass windows.



the bullseye in the center of the school is the library and ultimately, if a break happens to the courtyard, would be our last line of defense and damn near impenetrable by the undead masses. it's in a residential area filled with soccer moms which will more than likely evacuate to some 'safe zone'.

my best defense really, here, is a quick offense. if i can find out about an outbreak before other like-minded individuals, then i can take hold, hunker down, and defend the borders until my other people arrive.

Posted by TheVicariousVadder Rule No. 2: Double tap.

double taps are actually difficult to master. it boils down to muscle memory. when at the range, it's typically what i practice doing. my shots are accurate, but not precise yet.

Posted by Durdan i have been working on a plan for quite sometime now. my old elementary school is perfectly designed to ward off zombie hordes. this place will be home. there is a cafeteria for food, a library so we dont go insane and an interior courtyard perfectly suited for gardening for long term food stuffs. roof access for defense and large fenced off areas. also, all the interior doors are solid wood with 6" x 12" metal wire reinforced glass windows. http://a3.sphotos....7384_2106151_n.jpg the bullseye in the center of the school is the library and ultimately, if a break happens to the courtyard, would be our last line of defense and damn near impenetrable by the undead masses. it's in a residential area filled with soccer moms which will more than likely evacuate to some 'safe zone'. my best defense really, here, is a quick offense. if i can find out about an outbreak before other like-minded individuals, then i can take hold, hunker down, and defend the borders until my other people arrive.

Not bad. Not bad. Good location. Plus from there you'll be able to venture out when supplies get low. Decent population area though so your zombie numbers are going to be a little high, but hey, no place is perfect. One thing I really like is, in the event of a breach, you fall back to the library. If you could figure out a way to close that breach behind them and trap them inside, you have a great kill zone in that courtyard to clear all the zombies out.

exactly. roof access through the library. you only really have to worry about closing it off behind them if dealing with unwanted survivors. Zombies are going to be attracted inward, so they wont be free thinkers and try to 'find' other ways to get to you. if anything, we'll fill that court yard with carcasses until the ammo runs out... or until the bodies stack so high, that they can climb them and get to us haha.

then, dump the bodies in the fenced in basketball courts and burn. the entire property is chainlink fenced with openings located in the front of the property only, and very easy to seal.