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Max Payne
< on 10/20/2008 4:00 AM >
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Alright, First off. It was a good movie. Really good actually.
But should not have been titled "Max Payne".

(Spoilers lay ahead)

If you played the game, You would know that...

Three test subjects of the drug "Valkyr" killed his family. Not two and B.B Hensley(Who isnt even in the game.) B.B is apparently Max's Fathers old partner, Now turned bad..

The Roscoe Street Subway Station is a whole chapter in the game. It has a two minute scene in the movie. In the game, You walk around the corner to see a blood smear. Only to find a dead MTA worker. You walk around saving Mta Workers. You then take control of the train and drive it through a barricade. Follow it down the tunnel into the abandoned section of train station. Meet up with your partner Alex, He is shot and killed. You kill some more bad guys and then you end up in the street.

In the movie, All's he does is kill two crack heads and leaves..

As I said above, Alex dies in the train station. In the movie, He dies in Max's apartment.

The head bad guy, Jack Lupino. Is a BEAST in the movie. He is jacked out of his face. In the game he is a scrawny italian mobster..

There is a whole nother chapter in the game with this apartment complex that is practically abandoned. It is dark,Dank and filled with crack heads. You run around killing everyone to get to Jack Lupino. In the movie. They go to the apartment complex, Find Owen Greene(No relevence to the game) Only to watch him jump out a window and be the end of that whole thing.

If your going to make a movie off of a video game that ALREADY has an EXCELLENT story line and plot, Why add shit that doesnt need to be added. In the end of the game, You kill the woman in charge of the drug company. She survives to the end in the movie..

Also, In the game there are three dream sequence levels. He is knocked out and dreams. You have to walk on thin thin blood lines, Get to the other side without falling off. They completly got rid of them in the movie...

I hate hollywood, They took a good thing and raped it..




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Re: Max Payne
< Reply # 1 on 10/20/2008 4:57 AM >
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I did not expect the movie to closely follow the game, but here were the key features I thought were missing:

Max Payne being undercover in the mob:

part of how Max was so badass was because he spent a year doing deep undercover work to get directly at the source of Valkyr. This showed his dedication to finding his wife's killers and was the background for how he was able to get at Lupino and the pharmaceutical company.

Max Payne narrative:

the trailer fooled us into thinking the movie would have the Max Payne narrative that was omnipresent through the game. His clever use of language was a nice stylistic effect to the game.

Vinny Gognitti:

Vinny Gognitti was great character to throw into the mix. He was the loud mouthed italian that was the second in command to Lupino. This worked out pretty well since most of the other characters were very laconic. He was a character you did not like, but liked to have.

Mona Sax and Max Payne romance:

the game had a very nicely done romance between Max Payne and Mona Sax. Part of what made the story compelling is how much they are drawn to eachother despite wanting to kill eachother.




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Re: Max Payne
< Reply # 2 on 10/20/2008 12:14 PM >
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Alright, First off. It was a good movie. Really good actually.
But should not have been titled "Max Payne".

(Spoilers lay ahead)

If you played the game, You would know that...

Three test subjects of the drug "Valkyr" killed his family. Not two and B.B Hensley(Who isnt even in the game.) B.B is apparently Max's Fathers old partner, Now turned bad..

The Roscoe Street Subway Station is a whole chapter in the game. It has a two minute scene in the movie. In the game, You walk around the corner to see a blood smear. Only to find a dead MTA worker. You walk around saving Mta Workers. You then take control of the train and drive it through a barricade. Follow it down the tunnel into the abandoned section of train station. Meet up with your partner Alex, He is shot and killed. You kill some more bad guys and then you end up in the street.

In the movie, All's he does is kill two crack heads and leaves..

As I said above, Alex dies in the train station. In the movie, He dies in Max's apartment.

The head bad guy, Jack Lupino. Is a BEAST in the movie. He is jacked out of his face. In the game he is a scrawny italian mobster..

There is a whole nother chapter in the game with this apartment complex that is practically abandoned. It is dark,Dank and filled with crack heads. You run around killing everyone to get to Jack Lupino. In the movie. They go to the apartment complex, Find Owen Greene(No relevence to the game) Only to watch him jump out a window and be the end of that whole thing.

If your going to make a movie off of a video game that ALREADY has an EXCELLENT story line and plot, Why add shit that doesn't need to be added. In the end of the game, You kill the woman in charge of the drug company. She survives to the end in the movie..

Also, In the game there are three dream sequence levels. He is knocked out and dreams. You have to walk on thin thin blood lines, Get to the other side without falling off. They completly got rid of them in the movie...

I hate hollywood, They took a good thing and raped it..


You've got some things mixed up here.

B.B was in the game (parking garage, before you goto the Manor?), and was responsible for Alex's death, because he was close to discovering that Lupino was behind trafficking Valkyr. B.B kills Alex, leaving Max to take the blame. B.B was still a cop in the game, under the payroll of Aesir for cover up of the Valkyr situation that failed.

Jack Lupino was jacked up on Valkyr. It rotted his mind, and had different side effects compared to the junkies you see. Max even said "Lupino was pumped up and dying to go 15 rounds with a mutant alligator.".. right before you kill him at Ragnarok.

Vinnie Gognitti was the scrawny Italian mobster.. he was absent from the movie.

The ranks went like this:
Finito Brothers - Lackeys under Gognitti
Vinnie Gognitti - Lupino's right hand man
Jack Lupino - Second in command mob boss, under Punchinello
Don Angelo Punchinello - The head boss

The problem was, Punchinello played such an insignificant role in the game, that portraying him in the movie would screw up the audience's understanding. In the game, he was killed by Aesir suits, in order to keep him from talking about where he was getting the drugs, and to implicate Max in his murder.

Now, I disagree. I thought the movie was terrible, even not comparing it to the game. However, I understand that you couldn't just take the game and turn it into the movie. There was too much action, way too many minor characters, and waaaay too many twists to effectively make a movie under 4 hours that wouldn't confuse the audience.

Example: Roscoe Street Station. It was necessary in the game to set the basis of how Max was originally framed.. but at the same time, he thwarts a massive bank robbery single handedly? The audience wouldn't buy it.

Look back at what you wrote. He runs around, killing everyone. You have to understand that this movie was catered to a general audience.. not just fans of the game.

While I understand that they made sacrifices to cater to a movie-going audience, I think they made some really, really poor choices about the entire thing. The setting was way off, it didn't even retain the Max Payne feel. Mona was stupid, it needed Vinnie Gognitti, and it didn't build up enough character base to feel bad when Alex is killed (which was barely explained).





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Re: Max Payne
< Reply # 3 on 10/21/2008 1:36 AM >
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Uh, what he said.




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Re: Max Payne
< Reply # 4 on 10/21/2008 3:50 AM >
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ahem.

TOLD YOU SO.


its a shame, it had potential




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Re: Max Payne
< Reply # 5 on 10/26/2008 3:52 AM >
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i give it a "Slide Whistle Down"! it was filmed well and the action was good but... thank god i didn't pay to see it!




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Re: Max Payne
< Reply # 6 on 10/26/2008 4:21 AM >
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this movie sucked like electrolux.
end of story.




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Re: Max Payne
< Reply # 7 on 10/26/2008 4:40 AM >
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I bought the second game the other day...

No bueno..




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< Reply # 8 on 10/26/2008 12:39 PM >
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You never played it?
I thought it was okay.

For the PC or consoles?




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X-Box.
It just doesnt have the same dark feeling that the first game had.




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< Reply # 10 on 10/27/2008 12:16 AM >
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Very true. Sure the story isnt as good, but the game is nearly as fun




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X-Box.
It just doesnt have the same dark feeling that the first game had.


This may be lame, but I liked the second one more than the first. I liked the more involved television shows within the game, and how the Address Unknown show because involved in the plot. The complicated relationship between Max and Mona brought out some nice depth to the characters and drove the plot pretty well. Also the game engine was much improved.




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< Reply # 12 on 10/27/2008 2:22 AM >
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I kinda liked it.




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