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Cross processing question
< on 1/5/2009 11:37 AM >
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I'd never shot slide film before, and decided to have it cross processed. All the shots turned out this weird yellowy-green color.


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Any idea why this happened? How can I prevent this in the future? I was shooting Provia 100.

Also, after spending $54 having the negatives scanned, could someone recommend a decent scanner?

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Re: Cross processing question
< Reply # 1 on 1/5/2009 12:46 PM >
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That is just what happens when you cross process. Some people like the look. I personally don't.

You can find a Epson 4490 in Canada for cheap now and it will serve you well. It will also scan medium format if you choose to go that way. However, this is an old model. It has been replaced by the v500 http://www.epson.c...139&ref=r0302DNCSH which should be better, but it is not what I have so I can't tell you for certain. I am surprised you paid so much for scans and sadly you typically get better results if you do it yourself.




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Re: Cross processing question
< Reply # 2 on 1/6/2009 9:38 AM >
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Thank you very much!




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Re: Cross processing question
< Reply # 3 on 1/8/2009 4:16 PM >
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SaraBellum,

I went through the whole scanner dilemma a little over a year ago. In the end I compared the Epson 4990 (Newer model of the 4490), Epson V500, and Nikon Coolscan IV. In the end I went for the Coolscan as it was around the same price used as a new V500. The only downside to the Coolscan is that is only does 35mm, no medium format (it will do mounted slides though).

Here were my results.

4990 Original:


V500 Original:


Coolscan IV Original:


4990 100% Crop:


V500 100% Crop:


Coolscan IV 100% Crop:



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Re: Cross processing question
< Reply # 4 on 1/9/2009 12:43 AM >
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I'd never shot slide film before, and decided to have it cross processed. All the shots turned out this weird yellowy-green color.


Thank you!


I fake it alot in photoshop. i love the effect.... i tend to like the warmer one of the two ways to do it..(im not sure if that is slide film processed in 35 chemistry or visa versa)

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film pic: (scanned then photoshoped)


i tend to dial it down but this is the effect people use to "fake" crossprocessing typically





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Re: Cross processing question
< Reply # 5 on 1/9/2009 1:03 AM >
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Posted by Rana X.


I fake it alot in photoshop. i love the effect.... i tend to like the warmer one of the two ways to do it..(im not sure if that is slide film processed in 35 chemistry or visa versa)





It was slide processed as negative film. I was expecting something more akin to what you posted, rather than all the greens and yellows. Perhaps the examples I've seen have been Photoshopped as yours have.




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Here are some examples of people's previous posts. Maybe you can speak with some of them. I really know nothing about the topic.

http://www.uer.ca/...fid=1&msgid=632297
http://www.uer.ca/...urrpage=1&pp#post0
http://www.uer.ca/...urrpage=1&pp#post1
http://www.uer.ca/...fid=1&msgid=536914




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Re: Cross processing question
< Reply # 7 on 1/9/2009 1:23 AM >
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Seems as though Provia has a tendency to turn green like that when x-processed. Have a look:

http://images.goog...essed&start=0&sa=N




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yeah the look of the cross really depends on the film you use.

I think Rana's photos look more like the C-41 processed E-6 which usually has pastel colors with low contrast.

slide done as a negative is more contrasted and saturated.

provia is mostly green.
velvia is red.
sensia is green/red.
ektachrome is blue
agfa slides tend to just be super saturated.
tungsten slide usually turns purple..
e100vs is light green/yellow





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also, if you're having prints done at a lab, they usually do auto color balance which can sometimes fuck with the real look of the xpro.
sometimes they do a good job, but I'd rather scan myself and do more subtle balances.




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Re: Cross processing question
< Reply # 10 on 1/14/2009 7:31 AM >
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Thank you all very much. You're the best.

I'm not sure which scanner I'll buy yet, and I'll probably stop cross processing film for the time being. I could learn Photoshop and fake it, but that seems like too much effort.




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Re: Cross processing question
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Sara, I just bought a new scanner. I have no use for my old 4490, but I think it might be more expensive to ship than it would be for you to buy a new one.




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Re: Cross processing question
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It probably is.

What kind of scanner did you get?




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v700 http://www.epson.c...e=yes&oid=60047475

It is likely much more than you need. I just wanted the ability to make pretty large prints, if I decided to do so. A v500 would be a good option and it is something you could grow into. http://www.epson.c...e=yes&oid=60351786




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Re: Cross processing question
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v700


I was looking at that scanner last night and decided it was way more than I need. I'll probably go with the v500 since I do some medium format stuff.




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Some cross processing just comes out with colours like that.

Part of the fun in xpro is just the fact it is so unpredictable, generally every different film will react differently and have different casts and tones to them, and even using the same film you will get different results based on the chemistries used - so different labs will give slightly different results from the same films, and even the same lab at different times will vary (as chemicals age and are replaced)




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