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How do you become a SPY?
< on 1/27/2009 7:12 PM >
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So how does one become a spy, operative, agent whatever you call it? Do you just walk into the CIA and ask? At the CIA's job page there is nothing about it. I'm guessing you have to get one of those jobs and work your way up. Anyone have any ideas?




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Re: How do you become a SPY?
< Reply # 1 on 1/27/2009 9:08 PM >
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FBI came to my school yesterday. They said their qualifications are about the same as the CIA.

They said they usally require:

a Military background w/ experience and training in your certain field
Or 4yr degree to even be considered.

be good about paying your bills ( i.e. credit )

no drug use besides weed in the last 10 years

no previous convictions for drugs , no felonies ! misdemeanors ok, as long as they werent for drug use.

ability to read , speak and write another language is a BIG PLUS

not many people know it , but 1/3 of the FBI is dealing with Spy's




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Re: How do you become a SPY?
< Reply # 2 on 1/28/2009 1:50 AM >
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Spies are the bad guys. We have collectors in the field.
The people who analyze all that info are analysts.
CIA, NSA, NGA, and DIA all have jobs as collectors and analysts.
For every 1 collector there are 10 or 15 analysts.

The federal job code for Intelligence Analyst/Intelligence Officer is "0132."
So if you go to USAJobs and do a search for 0132 coded jobs, you'll come up with 10 pages of vacancies.

DIA is, by far, the easiest place to get hired. It's a feeder for the other services.
DIA's collectors work for DH or Defense Humint.
The postings will look like this: "IO (HUMINT FIELD COLLECTION)"
Here's a link, but it will be gone when the posting is gone:
http://jobsearch.u...asp?JobID=71811919

CIA's collectors are part of the NCS or "National Clandestine Service."
https://www.cia.go...ainee-program.html
https://www.cia.go...ore-collector.html

The surest route to any sort of government civilian intelligence career is to go to college and then go into the military.
OR go to an Ivy League college and grad school if you wanna' work for CIA.
-- Pick up a desirable language in college.
-- STAY CLEAN - We won't touch you if you have an extensive drug history. Pot is OK, but nothing more than casual use.

As for the FBI - they have 1811s (that's the federal job code for Special Agent) and also 0132s.
You can view both their 1811 and 0132 jobs via USAJobs.
You can apply for their 0132 jobs via USAJobs and can get started applying for 1811 jobs - but the initial application must be obtained directly from your nearest FBI field office.
Many of my friends who work for the Bureau do nothing but follow foreigners around all day writing reports and assessing what they are up to. It's not like it is on TV - but it beats working for WalMart.

What else would you like to know?





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Re: How do you become a SPY?
< Reply # 3 on 1/28/2009 9:29 PM >
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Spies are the bad guys. We have collectors in the field.
The people who analyze all that info are analysts.
CIA, NSA, NGA, and DIA all have jobs as collectors and analysts.
For every 1 collector there are 10 or 15 analysts.

The federal job code for Intelligence Analyst/Intelligence Officer is "0132."
So if you go to USAJobs and do a search for 0132 coded jobs, you'll come up with 10 pages of vacancies.

DIA is, by far, the easiest place to get hired. It's a feeder for the other services.
DIA's collectors work for DH or Defense Humint.
The postings will look like this: "IO (HUMINT FIELD COLLECTION)"
Here's a link, but it will be gone when the posting is gone:
http://jobsearch.u...asp?JobID=71811919

CIA's collectors are part of the NCS or "National Clandestine Service."
https://www.cia.go...ainee-program.html
https://www.cia.go...ore-collector.html

The surest route to any sort of government civilian intelligence career is to go to college and then go into the military.
OR go to an Ivy League college and grad school if you wanna' work for CIA.
-- Pick up a desirable language in college.
-- STAY CLEAN - We won't touch you if you have an extensive drug history. Pot is OK, but nothing more than casual use.

As for the FBI - they have 1811s (that's the federal job code for Special Agent) and also 0132s.
You can view both their 1811 and 0132 jobs via USAJobs.
You can apply for their 0132 jobs via USAJobs and can get started applying for 1811 jobs - but the initial application must be obtained directly from your nearest FBI field office.
Many of my friends who work for the Bureau do nothing but follow foreigners around all day writing reports and assessing what they are up to. It's not like it is on TV - but it beats working for WalMart.

What else would you like to know?




Thanks for the reply, one other thing:
Is college necessary for a job regarding defense intelligence if you have military experience?


thanks

EDIT: removed a question



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Re: How do you become a SPY?
< Reply # 4 on 1/28/2009 9:51 PM >
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Not necessarily - but it's helpful.
If you are smart and shrewd, you can get a good assignment as an enlisted intel type.
DIA has a direct hire program where they send you to NDIC and begin w/ the Agency as a GG7 or GG9 (now PB01).
It's good to experience the tactical side of intel and see where the rubber meets the road. A degree from the Kennedy School is great . . . . but knowing how intel is done @ the Brigade and below level is invaluable.




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Re: How do you become a SPY?
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bah, spying is boring. go on the other side, the pointy side...see if you can make it into a tier 1 formation. more fun then sitting in an office....once you understand fun to be pain and cold.



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Re: How do you become a SPY?
< Reply # 7 on 9/2/2009 7:18 PM >
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The surest route to any sort of government civilian intelligence career is to go to college and then go into the military.
OR go to an Ivy League college and grad school if you wanna' work for CIA.
-- Pick up a desirable language in college.
-- STAY CLEAN - We won't touch you if you have an extensive drug history. Pot is OK, but nothing more than casual use.




Also, try not to live with drug addicts or criminals. They will be interviewed.




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Re: How do you become a SPY?
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have considered the american equvalent of a military Intelligence operator or Intelligence Officer?

I'll post their job descriptions from the recruiting site....just something to think about. It might be a bit more exciting, while still being similar.
http://www.forces....erator_reg_en.aspx enlisted/field work
http://www.forces....fficer_reg_en.aspx officer/office work.

I dont know the US equivlents, and im not googling for it right now.




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Re: How do you become a SPY?
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Oh there is also criminal intelligence, civilian and military. Up here military would be 811-military police with investigative "stream" vs installation security, community policing, or warfare MP's

or a civilian police dept detective, its basically just HUMINT work, and research. that kind of thing. Just two other options I'd though I'd toss out there.




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