Posted by TheVicariousVadder The ONLY two car companies that made a profit in 08: http://www.autoplu...a-frontal_th_2.jpg http://img2.netcar...0_wallpaper_01.jpg FAIL ON EVERYONE ELSE.

Subaru posted a profit in 2008.
Why a pic of a Corvette? GM lost money in 2008 as you all are so eager to tell me.

Posted by Samurai Subaru posted a profit in 2008. Why a pic of a Corvette? GM lost money in 2008 as you all are so eager to tell me.

Subaru and Volkswagen both made like a 1% profit . The other car is a Jetta. Are you messing with me?

the bottom pic under that stupid looking volkswagen is a corvette.

Posted by TheVicariousVadder FAIL ON EVERYONE ELSE.

FAIL ON YOU for hotlinking an image and not seeing it when you posted. That NetCarShow site uses a Corvette as stock image.

Posted by velcrozeppelin FAIL ON YOU for hotlinking an image and not seeing it when you posted. That NetCarShow site uses a Corvette as stock image.

Haha...shit. It showed a Legacy even when I previewed it. Until I went back a page and hit F5.

Posted by TheVicariousVadder Haha...shit. It showed a Legacy even when I previewed it. Until I went back a page and hit F5.

getting really tired of foreign cars.
i think when i finally lose what's left of my mind, before i get taken out by the cops, or kidnapped by the CIA, i am going to go from city to city in a primer gray Chevy Camaro or Ford Mustang destroying every foreign car lot I can via high explosive... i am so sick of fucking Japanese and Korean cars and all little weinerheads in their fucking Volkswagen, i could explode.
That snotty, semi-superior look on your faces... your cars are fucking appliances, not even really qualified to be called automobiles. They are so appliance-like, you could have a fucking Black & Decker logo on it instead of Toyota or Honda! GAH! And the insult to injury, the red hot poker to the soft flesh of the ballbag in all of this is how readily everyone accepted these cars.

and now, i have to here Suzuki and Daewoo in a GM showroom... Daewoo? these idiots couldn't build a car out of a lego set! Suzuki??? Stick to motorcycles you twits! What has happened to my GM? What has happened to automobile??? There is an old saying that goes "hell is different things to different people..." My hell is having to drive some piece of shit anonymous people moving foreign appliance in beige. or silver. or white. or some other inoffensive, committee decided soft color. The only thing worse would be if it was a hybrid!

(if you have no sense of humor, fuck you anyway)

Posted by Samurai getting really tired of foreign cars. i think when i finally lose what's left of my mind, before i get taken out by the cops, or kidnapped by the CIA, i am going to go from city to city in a primer gray Chevy Camaro or Ford Mustang destroying every foreign car lot I can via high explosive... i am so sick of fucking Japanese and Korean cars and all little weinerheads in their fucking Volkswagen, i could explode. That snotty, semi-superior look on your faces... your cars are fucking appliances, not even really qualified to be called automobiles. They are so appliance-like, you could have a fucking Black & Decker logo on it instead of Toyota or Honda! GAH! And the insult to injury, the red hot poker to the soft flesh of the ballbag in all of this is how readily everyone accepted these cars. and now, i have to here Suzuki and Daewoo in a GM showroom... Daewoo? these idiots couldn't build a car out of a lego set! Suzuki??? Stick to motorcycles you twits! What has happened to my GM? What has happened to automobile??? There is an old saying that goes "hell is different things to different people..." My hell is having to drive some piece of shit anonymous people moving foreign appliance in beige. or silver. or white. or some other inoffensive, committee decided soft color. The only thing worse would be if it was a hybrid!

I think GM fixed up Daewoo by basically letting their neat R&D group run the entire division.

But yeah, I agree Suzuki should be making Motorcycles and weird little 4x4s

Posted by Agent Skelly I think GM fixed up Daewoo by basically letting their neat R&D group run the entire division. But yeah, I agree Suzuki should be making Motorcycles and weird little 4x4s

My Parents own a Suzuki X-Trail in Costa rica, and it's pretty good for their mountainous drive with giant potholes and rivers to traverse.

Plus theres lots of them, so lots of parts to fix.

When i was there i rented a Daihatsu Small SUV and broke the Sway bar traversing those same mountains and rivers. It is very strange to drive with a broken sway bar. it really should be called an anti sway bar.

whats happening is that american manufacturers are paying retards a retarded amount of money to build a boring product that no one really can get hot about.

Posted by Nismo whats happening is that american manufacturers are paying retards a retarded amount of money to build a boring product that no one really can get hot about.

I want to see some hard stats on that.

Samarui or anyone, can you get a breakdown on what cars DO sell at GM?

Posted by Nismo whats happening is that american manufacturers are paying retards a retarded amount of money to build a boring product that no one really can get hot about.

OH!! And a fucking Jetta or Golf or Rabbit gets one's pants all ablaze?
Get real.

and that's what you foreign fanboys always go for... paying retards retarded money. Motherfucker, you have a stint on an assembly line for GM and then go work for Toyota or Nissan and tell me who has the better deal? You're talking out of your ass because your mouth knows better. There is a reason that the Japanese and Korean manufacturers placed car plants in the American southeast. First, they are known as 'Right To Work' states which means they are staunchly anti-union. Second, because they are Right To Work, the manufacturers can pay whatever they feel like. And thirdly, people in the southeast, especially ones that work in plants like this, aren't the sharpest knives in the drawer. I know, I worked in an auto plant in Athens Tennessee.

So, it's a perfect storm of lax legislation, consumer idiocy, advertising success and the fact that they (the Japanese and Koreans) don't have to play by the rules that the domestic manufacturers do.
Oh and, product that no one gets excited over? How did your GTI do against the Cobalt SS/SC or TC? OH that's right... FAIL! How did the Civic Si do in the comparisons that mattered? Oh, again FAIL! The Sentra SE-R... oh copious FAIL!

you take a big fat bite of my jiggly fat ass.

Delivering Fail To The Imports since 2005!
Cobalt SS/SC- my brand of car that I think is anal sex.

Theres no talking any sense into stubborn people.

Posted by Samurai (if you have no sense of humor, fuck you anyway)

I knew I was asking for trouble posting that, but that was hilarious.

If the insurance companies wouldn't rape me up the arse; I would be driving a Mustang or Camaro. It'd have been 1/2 the price to buy a Mustang over my car. But three times as much in insurance. Gas mileage isn't a major concern to me if it gets over 15 in the city; I'd be happy.

I pay 650/6 months for comprehensive with 300K in liability and $500 deductible, on a $14,000 vehicle with high mileage (which knocks off about 4 grand from the price.)

The cobalt is an allright car and all but theres tons of other more interesting cars out there. Only gm product Id consider buying is Pontiac G8

samuri, i get such a wierd vibe off your meaning of foreign cars...

are you talking about asian imports, aswell as european imports? or just asian imports? i dont know much about mechanics, i really just love driving, and naturally love cars. im a bit naive beyond driving experience. i personally dont like asian imports because i dont feel like theres an effort to keep the driver connected to the road. i feel like they try as hard as possible to disconnect the driver from the road in the name of comfort and convenience. thats the reason i went with an e30 as my first car. everyone said it was a driving experience un-found in most modern cars.

i wanted a car with a driver/road connection, and as much as i loved that car, i found myself constantly hearing that e21's, 2002's, e24's, and e28's had an even better driving experience and better connection to the car, which is the reason i sold my e30 and picked up an e24. im still trying to find that perfect driver/car connection and although i'm only on my second car, i suspect it'll be a long process.

She's a diamond in the rough right now. clean title, no accidents, rust free sunday driver for her whole life. she needs some new shoes and shes a little tall, for now :-p


/end tangent.

to be honest, i never really had a problem with any car until the whole sport compact whatever bandwagon hit the known universe. Then all of the sudden, little rubber people that didn't shave yet were suddenly telling everyone what cars were superior to what. And then the whole my toyota is better than everything in the known universe attitude surfaced... gah

i am stubborn. i see bullshit and am sick of hearing the bullshit.

weird vibe off of me about cars? i can see where you get that. I was raised in a household that drove American cars. Period. The majority were Fords. Then I switched to General Motors. I saw no need to buy or drive anything else, especially as overpriced as the competition was. And along come the motoring weenies... as I have said in the past, you could park a flaming pile of shit in the parking lot, put a Honda or Toyota emblem on it and a half dozen motoring magazines would tell you that this was the pile of shit you MUST have and how superior a pile of shit it was to a domestic pile of shit... you get the idea.

that pisses me off.
and don't get me wrong, i truly like talking with Nismo, but there are times when him and Big Dave and the other import fanatics get on my fucking nerves.

personally, i have no beef with BMW... i've never had one. to tell you the truth, i've never really wanted one. They just seem...i don't know, showing off? I mean, they're good cars and all, from what I have seen in the real world, they just aren't me.

Yes Plx.

Posted by Caligula Yes Plx. http://reviews.car...007/10/vw_van2.jpg

you have a huge bong collection don't you?

Posted by Samurai you have a huge bong collection don't you?

Naw, I do not smoke.
Just always loved em.
I wish I could keep mine

Posted by Samurai TL;DR

I'm with Sam on the sport hatchbacks. I've grown up in an American car family with REAL cars (i.e. sedans and trucks) and all of my neighbors had collector muscle cars that I ogled a lot. And then this stupid fad with the compact sport hatch comes in and all these cars look like bubbles now. Prissy little bubbles. What happened to cars looking masculine, with front ends that look like battering rams and REAL trunks?