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CDSbigsby
Location: Lancaster, Ohio Gender: Male Total Likes: 5 likes
| | | | Got a derby car < on 4/10/2009 5:25 AM > | Reply with Quote
| | | Well not in my possession yet, but I've got an early '90s Civic 4 door sedan lined up for $200, and seeing as how it runs and drives but is too much of a piece of shit to drive every day, I think the most appropriate send-off for it would be to run it in the Compact demolition derby at my county's fair this fall. Granted, this is ridiculously early to think about that, but the car kinda fell into my lap and I'm not going to let an opportunity like this pass. Seeing as how it's a Civic, the theme is going to be the most ridiculously stereotypical ricer ever. Shame I can't put a huge wing, ridiculous body kit, and clear tail lights in it, but I'll find a way around that. Anyway, point being, anyone have any experience preparing or driving derby cars?
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| Samurai Vehicular Lord Rick
Location: northeastern New York Total Likes: 1902 likes
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| | | Re: Got a derby car < Reply # 2 on 4/11/2009 1:06 AM > | Reply with Quote
| | | Posted by CDSbigsby Well not in my possession yet, but I've got an early '90s Civic 4 door sedan lined up for $200, and seeing as how it runs and drives but is too much of a piece of shit to drive every day, I think the most appropriate send-off for it would be to run it in the Compact demolition derby at my county's fair this fall. Granted, this is ridiculously early to think about that, but the car kinda fell into my lap and I'm not going to let an opportunity like this pass. Seeing as how it's a Civic, the theme is going to be the most ridiculously stereotypical ricer ever. Shame I can't put a huge wing, ridiculous body kit, and clear tail lights in it, but I'll find a way around that. Anyway, point being, anyone have any experience preparing or driving derby cars?
| best advice, think about all the small stupid things that can go wrong. battery, fuel pump in the fuel cell, linkages... make sure you bring a sledgehammer. I've run a Ford Pinto, Ford Escort, Honda Accord and a Plymouth Sundance in demolition derbys... the kid I had driving the Sundance got the heavy hitter award because he blew a VW Fox wagon right on to it's roof.
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| Samurai Vehicular Lord Rick
Location: northeastern New York Total Likes: 1902 likes
No matter where you go, there you are...
| | | Re: Got a derby car < Reply # 13 on 4/16/2009 4:43 PM > | Reply with Quote
| | | what we do, if the car is solid enough, was take a torch and notch the subframe rails. Then you throw oil and dirt on it so no one will notice. This way you can somewhat control which way the body is going to go when it get hammered. Another trick is to weld the spider gears in the rear axle. On a road car, it won't last long, but in a demo car, having both wheels spinning can mean the difference. Another dirty trick is take the heater core out and stuff a radiator in the dashboard out of something small like a Honda or Toyota. Why? the lines to the radiator in the front are dummies... the real cooling is inside the car where it can't be damaged... you can rig the heater fan to blow through the radiator. Again, on a road car, not good, but on a demo car for 5-10 minutes, you can get away with it. Also, we've run that RedLine Water Wetter in the cooling system, as much Slick 50 (or comparable) and heavy synthetic oil. I run a mix of 10W40 and 20W50. We also loctite the wires to the spark plugs, ziptie to the plug wires to the engine block, fill transmissions with stopleak additives, anything to keep the engine and transmissions working for that merciless 5-10 minute window. Best battery i've used is a huge deepcycle marine battery, just in case I lose the alternator/belt. i've also been known to sneak an electric water pump under the hood, but the next season those were disqualified. You have to keep the battery alive. Period. We've been know to double lock electrical connections, especially on a GM... their engine grounds on some models are tied into the solenoid on the starter. Lose that little ground and you kill the circuit. Engine dies. Fuel... go with high octane, starts and runs a hot, battered engine much better than rotgut 87 octane. I don't care what your compression ratio is, 93 or better. Torches and hammers are a must if you go on to a next heat... between heats, cool that engine off. Guys out in Whallonsburg and Lewis NY, Rockpile Racing... they take this shit very seriously and win between 10-15k a season... the average prep time for their cars is between 2-4 months. (this is where I got most of my ideas from) Just as an example of what an engine is capable of... at a car show a couple of years ago, my club had a contest for a local charity. The contest for people to enter the time of how long an engine would run, at the redline without any coolant. The contestant car was an 86 or 87 Ford Taurus 3.0L V6. I entered because I knew what a 3.0L was capable of. Unfortunately, so did my father and brother. Anyways, people were guessing 6 minutes, 7 minutes... I had my money on 15:45. the engine ran for 17:33 seconds, at 6000RPM with no coolant before it finally gave up. And the best part was, about an hour later, they had a consolation round because the engine had cooled off enough where it fired back up. My money was on 5:40... it ran for almost 10 minutes before finally spit a connecting rod out the side of it.
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