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QSC power amps
< on 4/16/2009 8:11 AM >
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Hey guys,

QSC power amps. Have any of you used them? How do they hold up long term etc? Are they reliable like crowns etc?

I have seen them here and there but lately I have been seeing them for sale etc, and never had any experience with them. They seem not too badly priced.




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< Reply # 1 on 4/17/2009 9:20 PM >
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Meh, they're okay. If you want high-quality amps for the same price with added extras (whether you use them or not), look at the Crown XTi series. The crown XTi series are roughly the same price (give or take a few bucks) as the QSC amps without the extra features, so in reality, you're getting more for your buck.

Same goes with the Audix OM-series mics, vs Shure's SM-series mics. Higher quality for the same price.




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< Reply # 2 on 4/17/2009 10:30 PM >
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yeah I have a couple of crowns... and even my cheaper one is pretty reliable.

I have just been seeing them around and haven't heard much about them... and te online reviews dont seem to be too great. People who are fans of crown specifically wont talk great about other brands...


Have you seen the new crowns with USB and built in digital crossover? Awesome stuff, only expensive. You can set up hardware profiles and stuff too...




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< Reply # 3 on 4/18/2009 7:30 AM >
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I probably shouldn't reply to this thread because I am employed by the Peavey Electronics Corporation. However I am employed by the MediaMatrix division, which does NOT have anything to do with amplifiers.

All major manufacturers build high quality gear and fscking garbage. QSC is a major amplifier manufacturer. They are also a minor loudspeaker manufacturer. Crown is a major amplifier manufacturer. Just be careful what you buy... if you are buying used, try to figure out where in their product line that model is situated. If it is low end, leave it.

"The wrong piece of gear at the right price is still the wrong piece of gear." quoted from someone I can't remember at the moment...

For example, I happen to have on a Crown Audio T-shirt right now (seriously). My home theater has two Crown D150 power amplifiers in it (for surrounds and sub) and a Hafler P230 (for the mains). They all work fantastic!

However, for the sound hire work that I do, I use pretty much exclusively Crest Audio Pro 01 series amplifiers. I have a 10004, 9001, 8001 (x2), and 4801. I also have a Crest Audio Pro 5200. Otherwise, I have a pair of Crown CT-800 and a pair of CT-400 amps, and Peavey GPS-3500 (x2), GPS-1500 (x2), and GPS-900. This all sounds like a lot of old heavy iron, but get a load of this... I have in the "semi-retired" pile, Peavey CS-1200X (x3), CS-1000, and CS-800X, THAT is some SERIOUSLY HEAVY amplifier power!!! Lots of weight for not that much "rated" power.

I tell you this because if you consider where in the various company's product lines the series and models that I have are located, you should note that they were pretty much top of the line when they were purchased. ALL of them have been ROCK SOLID! I've not had an issue with any of these models.

"Buy once, cry once." Again, I can't recall who coined this phrase, but it means a lot. Buy quality up front and you will not have trouble in the future. It seems to hold true in general.

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yeah I have a couple of crowns... and even my cheaper one is pretty reliable.

I have just been seeing them around and haven't heard much about them... and te online reviews dont seem to be too great. People who are fans of crown specifically wont talk great about other brands...


Have you seen the new crowns with USB and built in digital crossover? Awesome stuff, only expensive. You can set up hardware profiles and stuff too...


Here is something to think about... "What do you want it to do?"

I am NOT a fan of all these amplifiers that "also have" DSP in them. I may just be a bit of an equipment snob... but I prefer an amplifier to do that AMPLIFY. There are a lot of external boxes that can be used to do some very nice and very advanced processing for your amplifiers. From a price vs. performance standpoint, I really like the Peavey VSX-26 processors. They are capable of doing some VERY advanced alignments and the price isn't that bad. Certainly, the VSX-26 is FAR more flexible than the dbx DriveRack PA (I have one of those too...) Anyhow, it is just my preference to keep the processing separated from the amplifier, though there are a lot of manufacturers offering DSP in the amplifier these days.

Anyhow, If the QSC's are from the "PL", "PL-2", "CX", or "PL-3" series, I'd suggest jumping on them. If they are the RMX or PLX series, STAY AWAY. Do not waste your time because you can do better.





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< Reply # 4 on 4/19/2009 10:21 PM >
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Anyhow, If the QSC's are from the "PL", "PL-2", "CX", or "PL-3" series, I'd suggest jumping on them. If they are the RMX or PLX series, STAY AWAY. Do not waste your time because you can do better.


Agreed. I used to work in an audio retail store. Unless the customer was insistent on the QSC models, I pushed the Crown series like hell.

The Crown XTi 4000's are used currently on the Women of Faith tour I'm involved in every year. My bud "tntrailblaze" is the house engineer, and those amps with the new JBL array series are awesome sounding. They are networked thru the Harman Pro DSP program (PC software) and respond to anything.

Hell, if I had the $$, I'd get the XTi 1000 for my studio and replace my Mackie M800 amp (still works, but no DSP stuff that I need).


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< Reply # 5 on 4/20/2009 4:18 AM >
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wow, I wish I had the money for one of those amps.. never mind a rack of them or a palette of racks of them.



Currently I dont do huge stuff, my capacity is more or less a 150 to 300 person venue.

I am always looking online at the local craigslist adds.. not that I am always in need to buy stuff, but more or less I am just checking out what is being tossed around and how much people are asking for things.


One thing I noticed....... I dont think I have ever seen a bryston amp up for sale. I cant say I am a fan of them because I never owned or used one however I have heard good stuff about them from people close to me.

The reason I asked about crown amps is because there is a music shop I frequently look at online and that is the only power amp brand they carry... and plus lately I saw a few on craigslist. That and I never knew anyone who used them.



I have two crown amps... nothing huge, one is like 115 or 120 a side into 8 ohms and the other is like 250 or 300 into 8 ohms. The 115-120 is a com-tech if I remember correct.




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< Reply # 6 on 4/21/2009 12:03 AM >
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I have a Com-Tech 200 for sale for $45 if interested. You will have to pay for shipping tho...




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not sure if with the price of shipping it would be worth it.




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I have a Com-Tech 200 for sale for $45 if interested. You will have to pay for shipping tho...


Photos? Condition? Operation?

I could possibly use one of these if it is in good working condition for extending my whole-house audio.

This model has no fan in it.




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Photos? Condition? Operation?

I could possibly use one of these if it is in good working condition for extending my whole-house audio.

This model has no fan in it.


my com-tech has a fan... but mine is the 210




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< Reply # 10 on 4/21/2009 4:35 AM >
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Does this board allow for sale postings? Or do I have to post in the For Sale board?

Since we're audio-orientated users on here, I'd like to post here first so you guys get the best deals and grabs.

With that said (and if I'm allowed), I have a bunch of audio equipment I'm selling from my collection. All of which can be used and is not junk.




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Either post it here or in the buy/sell/swap board. I doubt you will get a lot of interest over there that you wouldn't get here. So post it somewhere... I'm in a buying mood...




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my com-tech has a fan... but mine is the 210


I don't know for sure about the CT-210, but I do know that the CT-200 came without the fan. You could get it as an accessory if you wanted to be "hard-core"...

as if you can be "hard-core" with that little amplifier...

However, it will go well with my Crown D45 and D60 amplifiers.




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that bit about the fan add=on does sound familiar... it can be an option in mine too i believe...

but "hardcore" might not be the only reason... it might also be for the rack general airflow. it will generate heat, which should be vented out upwards through the back, right? so it probably aids in keeping that circulatory process.


the amp is small, but indeed enough for a pair of drivers & horns!




Oh, and I vote for posting the for sale items in this board... because I dont wanna sort through all sorts of stuff to see what audio equipment you guys have for sale. even craigslist has categories.




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< Reply # 14 on 4/22/2009 3:20 AM >
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the amp is small, but indeed enough for a pair of drivers & horns!



um... okay... I'm glad it's enough for you.

(says the guy who prefers to use a Crest Audio Pro 9200 to bi-amp a 15" 2-way loudspeaker. Yes, channel 1 is used for the 15" and channel 2 is used for the compression driver. The Pro 9200 delivers 2200 watts per channel at 4 ohms. The compression driver is good for about 100 watts. Never toasted one yet, but those things get SERIOUSLY LOUD!!!)

Really, the CT-200/210 isn't good for much more than background music speakers. It would do a good job running the loudspeakers in my bathroom.




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well then IMO, you have hearing problems or inefficient speakers.

At 105 or so watts a side into 8 ohms.... for a pair of "tweeter" drivers that is often plenty for the types of gigs I typically do (100-200 people venues give or take)

name me a high frequency driver that draws more then 100-150 watts. The amp is not used to run a whole wack of speakers.... simply the high range. That is why I have 2 other power amps aswell.

Glad that you're glad, because it is good enough for me and for the 165 people that came to my event last week.




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Either post it here or in the buy/sell/swap board. I doubt you will get a lot of interest over there that you wouldn't get here. So post it somewhere... I'm in a buying mood...


I'll be posting on here and the buy/sell forum today. I'll try to include pics, but you can always ask me and I can PM them to you...




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