...loves NASCAR at Infineon and Watkins Glen? I would become a huge fan of NASCAR if they ran at least 10 road courses a year, or had a whole separate road racing program with the same drivers that race on the oval tracks. I guess i don't really hate NASCAR, i just hate the poor choices of "tracks" in the program.

Here's to hoping...

well last year the montreal race at gilles villeneuve was great. in the rain!

I don't hate nascar, but I sure like WRC, and desert trucks and motorcycles better. I get sick of left turns!!!

i like the equal playing field of nascar, formula 1 bores me

I'd never watched a NASCAR race and always thought it was redneck hick to a "T"
Then I won pit passes to Watkins Glen last year. It was definitely hickish... but holy fuck what a blast! by far one of my best weekends as a car guy. the party was great, the cars up close were amazing and the race was a thrill a minute. Car guys... gotta go to a NASCAR race atleast once

I went to Talladega.
it smells..no use in seats because everybody stands up

Cool to go to once, but idk about after that.

But I went to the Porsche 250 at Barber Motorsports Park in B-Ham.
I want to go back.

http://www.barberm...m/2009-porsche.php
Damn. Just missed it.

nope. I dislike nascar.

motoGP for me.

NASCAR is not as equal as they would like people to believe. It's all about big dollars... notice it always the same teams in the winner circle each week?
With Sonoma and Watkins Glen, that shows you who can actually drive.

NASCAR is ancient technology...

WRC is more my speed.

Posted by Samurai NASCAR is not as equal as they would like people to believe. It's all about big dollars... notice it always the same teams in the winner circle each week? With Sonoma and Watkins Glen, that shows you who can actually drive. NASCAR is ancient technology... WRC is more my speed.

RallyAmerica not good enough for you?

Now that Travis Pastrana, and Ken Block are playing, maybe rally america will get more exposure. But WRC is about the locations for me, I love seeing all the different countries offerings up to the rally Gods, I do notice that spectators are stupid no matter what country they are from!!

I think Finland, and Sweden are my favorite WRC locations.

nascar fans are hard core

Posted by big dave ...loves NASCAR at Infineon and Watkins Glen? I would become a huge fan of NASCAR if they ran at least 10 road courses a year, or had a whole separate road racing program with the same drivers that race on the oval tracks. I guess i don't really hate NASCAR, i just hate the poor choices of "tracks" in the program. Here's to hoping...

ya...they whole..
left turn
left turn
left turn
left turn


for 500 laps or what not...GAHHH!!!!

and yes, rally is deffinatly the shit!!!!

I prefered NASCAR when it was more of a gentleman's race in the 1950s and 1960s.

Posted by Agent Skelly I prefered NASCAR when it was more of a gentleman's race in the 1950s and 1960s.

it was fun and free for all when there were personalities in the cars, more of a bareknuckled "you wrecked me so now I'm gonna fuck you up off camera" atmosphere. Now, its biz biz biz. I get tired of it.

I think that in many ways the golden age of NASCAR died when Dale Earnhardt piled into a wall and went to that superspeedway in the sky.

Posted by Samurai NASCAR is not as equal as they would like people to believe.

I only have one experience under my belt, and based on what I saw, it's pretty equal. All of the engine blocks have to be the same, i think he told me from one of 3 manufacturers. The shape and size of the body of the car is measured with these giant skeleton looking units that lay on the car and must touch in "X" number of spots to ensure uniformity, the tires and rims are all identical and are actually race prepared in a separate garage by NASCAR officials, not the teams.

On a couple of occasions as i was playing around in the team garages, pits and trailers, NASCAR officials were floating about measuring shit, and I got to see them pull apart a blown motor.... all under the watchful of of... you guessed it... officials, who were checking that it was in fact broken before they could put another one on the track.

Posted by Samurai it was fun and free for all when there were personalities in the cars, more of a bareknuckled "you wrecked me so now I'm gonna fuck you up off camera" atmosphere. Now, its biz biz biz. I get tired of it. I think that in many ways the golden age of NASCAR died when Dale Earnhardt piled into a wall and went to that superspeedway in the sky.

I think the golden age ended when the movie "Days of Thunder" came out.

Posted by Agent Skelly I think the golden age ended when the movie "Days of Thunder" came out.

I want you to hit the pacecar! the pacecar, yeah the pacecar you hit every other thing out there i want you to be perfect

Posted by nostra-YOUPPI! I want you to hit the pacecar! the pacecar, yeah the pacecar you hit every other thing out there i want you to be perfect

stop playing peek-a-boo in Rowdy's mirror...

you cant come in right now... were eating ice cream