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UER Forum > Private Boards Index > Flashlights, Torches and Light Painting > Mag-lite up grades? (Viewed 1781 times)
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Mag-lite up grades?
< on 7/16/2009 11:42 PM >
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I've tried looking around the candle-power forum but honestly I can't sort through that much craziness. Light weirdness reaches a level that I've never seen at that place.

I'm trying to figure out if getting xenon bulbs for my mag-lights will make that much difference or if I should look into a Terralux LED upgrade instead. I can't find a lumen figure on the xenon bulbs, only that they are supposed to be 100% brighter than the krypton bulbs that are standard. The standard 6-d mag is about 160 lumen. I have a 4 and 6 cell both and I'm looking for a little more out of them. I know they are old, out-dated, and way heavy but I have a sure-fire and streamlight around if I need smaller lights.

Anybody have terralux upgrade? How about the xenon bulbs? are they much better?

Any input appreciated.




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Re: Mag-lite up grades?
< Reply # 1 on 7/17/2009 12:55 AM >
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I've tried looking around the candle-power forum but honestly I can't sort through that much craziness. Light weirdness reaches a level that I've never seen at that place.

I'm trying to figure out if getting xenon bulbs for my mag-lights will make that much difference or if I should look into a Terralux LED upgrade instead. I can't find a lumen figure on the xenon bulbs, only that they are supposed to be 100% brighter than the krypton bulbs that are standard. The standard 6-d mag is about 160 lumen. I have a 4 and 6 cell both and I'm looking for a little more out of them. I know they are old, out-dated, and way heavy but I have a sure-fire and streamlight around if I need smaller lights.

Anybody have terralux upgrade? How about the xenon bulbs? are they much better?

Any input appreciated.



the led upgrades suck, just get a new light, it will be smaller and brighter. I actually used mine today, but it was just a color preference..i would have been happier having a pocket sized one instead.



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Re: Mag-lite up grades?
< Reply # 2 on 7/17/2009 1:20 AM >
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I've tried looking around the candle-power forum but honestly I can't sort through that much craziness. Light weirdness reaches a level that I've never seen at that place.



Isn't that ever the truth!

I agree with Air, the mag LED upgrades don't seem worth the expense or effort, unless you go for the very expensive Malkoff(?) ones. I tossed my Mags away and bought new lights.




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< Reply # 3 on 7/17/2009 1:43 AM >
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I've never heard much good (other than longer battery life) about mag-lite brand LED upgrades either the one that I'm talking about replaces entire head of the light.

Rated at up to 600 lumen

Seen here:

http://www.battery...ger-tle-300mr.html


And another that replaces the bulb only that is rated at 140 lumen

Seen here:

http://www.battery...n.com/tle-6k2.html




And the other is just a Xenon (similar to the ones in streamlights and surefires) That goes in place of the original bulb, and is supposed to have a higher lumen rating along with improved efficiency.




Anybody tried either of these?

The reason that the first one appeals to me is the 600 lumen rating. That quite a bit and to get into any other lights with that type of output is a decent amount of money. A decent streamlight or surefire with 350 lumen or more is over $250 or more from what I've seen.





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Man... Not even the mods make it to this corner of UER
I feel like I am in ...well... the great plains ;) Posted by willskith Unfortunately, due to overuse of tonemapping, photography was gradually ruined and now stands with halos.
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< Reply # 4 on 7/17/2009 2:34 AM >
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A few people on CPF seem to like that first option with the three emitters - it certainly should be bright.

The main alternative for that kind of brightness in that sort of price range is going to be something pretty cheap and dodgy, like this...



...which, incidentially, I ordered the day before yesterday

It uses a quad-die LED, with a claimed 700 lumens output, though in reality it's probably a bit less than that. At $38.85, I'll take my chances, and not expect overly much - a decent brand light with that emitter is three or four times the price, after, all.

But, back to the Mag thing - I think that first option looks pretty good, if you're looking for a way to hang on to the Mag.




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A few people on CPF seem to like that first option with the three emitters - it certainly should be bright.

The main alternative for that kind of brightness in that sort of price range is going to be something pretty cheap and dodgy, like this...

http://www1.dealex...es/sku_16501_1.jpg

...which, incidentially, I ordered the day before yesterday

It uses a quad-die LED, with a claimed 700 lumens output, though in reality it's probably a bit less than that. At $38.85, I'll take my chances, and not expect overly much - a decent brand light with that emitter is three or four times the price, after, all.

But, back to the Mag thing - I think that first option looks pretty good, if you're looking for a way to hang on to the Mag.


What batteries does it take...and hwo long do they last

Hopefully it doesn't explode




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It runs on a single 18650 battery, which is my usual choice, but as for how long it'll run... I have a feeling that quad-die emitter will munch through power pretty damn quickly.

I hope it doesn't explode




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700 lumen for $38 wow! Even if it only makes 500 thats still a lot cheaper than the mag upgrade. I guess with that claim for output and that price one would have to be pretty skeptical though.

I expect a full report on that thing when you get it.


And I will probably order the terralux upgrade when I get paid at the end of the month. From what I read on the CP forums it seems to be a good deal for the output and the price.


Also I stopped by the local sport goods place and picked up a xenon bulb for my 4-D mag (they didn't have them for my 6-D unfortunately sold out) I'm going to test that tonight. The xenon bulb was only $3 so I'm not expecting much difference from it. I think their site claimed an increase of 30-40 lumen on the 4-D and 50-75 lumen on the 6-D plus an additional 1-2 hours in battery life. I don't think that terrible for a $3 up grade.




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Man... Not even the mods make it to this corner of UER
I feel like I am in ...well... the great plains ;) Posted by willskith Unfortunately, due to overuse of tonemapping, photography was gradually ruined and now stands with halos.
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700 lumen for $38 wow! Even if it only makes 500 thats still a lot cheaper than the mag upgrade. I guess with that claim for output and that price one would have to be pretty skeptical though.

I expect a full report on that thing when you get it.


And I will probably order the terralux upgrade when I get paid at the end of the month. From what I read on the CP forums it seems to be a good deal for the output and the price.


Also I stopped by the local sport goods place and picked up a xenon bulb for my 4-D mag (they didn't have them for my 6-D unfortunately sold out) I'm going to test that tonight. The xenon bulb was only $3 so I'm not expecting much difference from it. I think their site claimed an increase of 30-40 lumen on the 4-D and 50-75 lumen on the 6-D plus an additional 1-2 hours in battery life. I don't think that terrible for a $3 up grade.


Its what i use, its bright, but the flashlight is just too damn big!




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Its what i use, its bright, but the flashlight is just too damn big!


The one that mettawaffle posted?

What's the body dimensions? Is it heavy?

Of course it can't be much worse than lugging around a 6-D mag. :





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Man... Not even the mods make it to this corner of UER
I feel like I am in ...well... the great plains ;) Posted by willskith Unfortunately, due to overuse of tonemapping, photography was gradually ruined and now stands with halos.
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The one that mettawaffle posted?

What's the body dimensions? Is it heavy?

Of course it can't be much worse than lugging around a 6-D mag. :




No its a 3d mag. The only reason i have it is because I got it last year on clearance with the aa and solitaire (which I actually do like) for $14




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No its a 3d mag. The only reason i have it is because I got it last year on clearance with the aa and solitaire (which I actually do like) for $14


Ok I was confused. So what bulb do you have in it. And only $14 thats a good deal




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Man... Not even the mods make it to this corner of UER
I feel like I am in ...well... the great plains ;) Posted by willskith Unfortunately, due to overuse of tonemapping, photography was gradually ruined and now stands with halos.
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Ok I was confused. So what bulb do you have in it. And only $14 thats a good deal


I had an extra of that xeon bulb..I'm not sure if its brighter, but it really is pretty bright. Light output falls off fairly quickly tho.




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