So you have connections but your connections only go as far as what's on the lot.

Posted by Drooldog the way it works is you pick out what you want. Then the manager goes with the "papers" to the VP. The VP calls you into his office and whispers /writes down a new number and you sit down and talk about family stuff. He then says he will offer the car for this price once the manager does the "work" and then he calls in the finance/credit managers for the fun part. I have a photo of the 5 people working on my stuff.. Examples: My uncle van retails for 35k..he got it for 20k...my moms car was 16k we got it for 8k with $200 a month payments. My aunt gets a new car for free every year

this sounds... off, somehow.

oh no we can order any car from any dealership in the US thats Town and Country..

BUT

I need a car by Saturday or my ass is not going back to College...It takes a week to ship a car to the dealership.

And he removes the profit off of what the dealership makes from the car. Im not sure how it works fully. My Aunt married his son so thats why she gets the new car every year and she gives back her old one.

Posted by Drooldog oh no we can order any car from any dealership in the US thats Town and Country.. BUT I need a car by Saturday or my ass is not going back to College...It takes a week to ship a car to the dealership. And he removes the profit off of what the dealership makes from the car. Im not sure how it works fully. My Aunt married his son so thats why she gets the new car every year and she gives back her old one.

Can I fly to NC and buy a car from this place with you next to me?

haha I don't know if that would fly Skelly..Im not sure how it all works as I said. I sit there while they do all the work..

I should upload the picture from my cell when I wake up tomorrow

Posted by Drooldog I need a car by Saturday or my ass is not going back to College...It takes a week to ship a car to the dealership. And he removes the profit off of what the dealership makes from the car. Im not sure how it works fully. My Aunt married his son so thats why she gets the new car every year and she gives back her old one.

The dealer gets "X" car on trade-in for $3000 marks it up to $5000. But you get it at product value, not profit value.

So you are left between the taurus wagon and the oldsmobile?

Taurus. If it breaks you are out less $$$$ and just try and drive it nicely. So you don't break the "weak" axle/suspension.

the Tarus has a broken sun roof and damaged seats. The Oldsmobile is in perfect condition cept for the paint chips.

Posted by Drooldog the Tarus has a broken sun roof and damaged seats. The Oldsmobile is in perfect condition cept for the paint chips.

Get them to agree to fix those issues at no-cost at a later date, if necessary.

My car had a corroded battery and scratched windshield, I made agreements for them to fix both for free. I had a brand new battery for free and the windshield got resurfaced.

Turns out the terminals are prone to corrosion. And Subaru windshields are complete shit actually, I'm going to need to replace it in another year or two.
And I'll need new tires within another year, the tread can't keep up with me But that's my fault.

Posted by Drooldog Thoughts?

Ugh.

rebadged malibu no? love to burn oil and crack head gaskets in my experience

Drooldog

Some of the people on this board work for Gm others know more about cars then most ever will. When they tell you to run like hell rather then buy a car they are not being opinionated they have a good reason for doing so.

Posted by Nismo rebadged malibu no? love to burn oil and crack head gaskets in my experience

it's not a rebadged Malibu you knothead... the Intrigue was the last iteration of the W-body, the 109 in wheelbase W-body. The Oldsmobile Cutlass was the rebadged Malibu.

well malibus still suck lol

Posted by Nismo well malibus still suck lol

so do you

Posted by Samurai so do you

LOL

The current iteration of the Impala is the actual "last" W-body, btw.

I also say walk away from this car, it's gonna give you problems. There are worse cars out there but that's not to say you should burden yourself with this one. My experience with all W-bodies is that you have to get rid of them at 65K miles or they shit themselves. However, I've seen the bubble Luminas and Montes get totally BEAT ON and last forever! Weird!

One kid I knew drove one without changing the oil, EVER, just to be funny. I swear the car must have gone for at least 50K miles like that, then the transmission died from them beating the crap out of the car for so long. I guess it depends on the model.

Posted by MattTrakker LOL The current iteration of the Impala is the actual "last" W-body, btw. I also say walk away from this car, it's gonna give you problems. There are worse cars out there but that's not to say you should burden yourself with this one. My experience with all W-bodies is that you have to get rid of them at 65K miles or they shit themselves. However, I've seen the bubble Luminas and Montes get totally BEAT ON and last forever! Weird! One kid I knew drove one without changing the oil, EVER, just to be funny. I swear the car must have gone for at least 50K miles like that, then the transmission died from them beating the crap out of the car for so long. I guess it depends on the model.

I know the Impala is the last of the W-bodies, but at one point there were two wheelbases offered in the line. That was what I was getting at.

it's not the transmission that dies in the 95+ W-bodies... it's the shift solenoids. They are replaced through the side cover. Luminas and Monte Carlos are bulletproof... even the older Luminas with their terrible rear suspension would turn some mileage. My friend traded his 92 Honda Accord for a 93 Lumina Euro 3.1L coupe with. The Honda had 270,000 miles and the Lumina had a shade over 230,000 miles... he got the car home and it just died. Would not run. So he cracks open the top of the engine and it's full of... dirt. The oil was never changed in the car. So he cleans out the dirt from the top of the engine, changes intake and head gaskets and drives the car for another year or so, putting on 110,000 miles. At about 320,000, the box that holds the rear subframe to the unibody of the car rotted and broke... that was it for the little Lumina that could.
this beat to shit example of a Lumina is STILL running around Washington County NY... it must be well over 200,000 miles by now.

Both Samarui and MattTracker are correct; the last of the first generation W-bodies were in 2005 with the Intrigue. After that, the 2nd generation bodies with the 110.5 inch wheelbase came out.

Posted by Agent Skelly Both Samarui and MattTracker are correct; the last of the first generation W-bodies were in 2005 with the Intrigue. After that, the 2nd generation bodies with the 110.5 inch wheelbase came out.

how many sources did you google?

Posted by Samurai how many sources did you google?

One. I knew that there was a 2nd generation revision on the W-body but I couldn't remember if it was in 2000 or 2006

What's the deal with brakes on these cars? We had two Grand Prix and the rear brakes would always seize up. The 89 we had ran FOREVER, but the paint peeled, the instrument cluster shit itself, the rear struts went, and the brake calipers seized numerous times. Someone told me you could put graphite in the sliders or hone them out or something but by then the car was scrapped. Still ran good.

My brother had a white 95 SE that was a lemon, he overpaid for the car after I told him not to buy it. Paid like 4500 bucks for the thing in 2004 or so. Interior stuff kept breaking, rear struts blew and the rear tires were both riding on their inner edges, intake started leaking, a tie rod went on the front and both wheels cocked out in opposite directions. Eventually some drunk guy CREAMED the whole side of the car from the driver's door to the rear and it was totalled by the insurance company.