Not particularly pissed, but a bit baffled. Given that libertarians are seemingly gaining more presence these days, I really hope that they are more logical than this nutjob.

The discussion started with health care. He said nobody is entitled to anything, it isn't right for others to benefit off of taxes, ect. ect. ect... then he said in addition to abolishing VA benefits, Medicaid/Medicare (for the elderly and disabled), that public education should be abolished. From his state funded university in Virginia.

I just calculated the costs of private education at the nearest private school, The Baldwin School. $343,000 dollars to pay for 12 years of education, plus kindergarten. Add in $40,000/semester for a private university for 4 years, and viola! This public school-attending libertarian is telling me that paying $663,000 for education up to a 4 year college degree is no big deal, meanwhile I am still trying to imagine, in the essence of what this specific libertarian is trying to sell me, a 4 year old signing a check for 16 grand to attend one year of kindergarten.

I'm not trying to start the demolition derby for political parties, but holy fuck! This libertarian comes off as a fucking moron.

Usually when someone starts declaring what is or isn't necessary, it's enjoyable to show them some things they like that come from that. Does he like having roads? Firemen? And I suppose he and his friends could, by pure buying power, enforce non-decapitating work conditions and safe chemical use in foods. The government's quite an ugly bitch of a system, but it does lots of things I can't do very well alone or with a non-governing group. How 'pure' a libertarian is he?

I'm not real sure how "pure" of a libertarian he is, as it depends on the standard. I am pretty sure that Ron Paul did not believe in abolishing the public school system, so this guy sounds like some wingnut that took an idea to the extremes.


It sounds like he would be the type to say that firefighters, highways ect. are not necessary, given that he keeps insisting that people shouldn't benefit from taxes and that he is extreme enough to say that the disabled, elderly, and veterans do not have a right to be provided health care.

Posted by jukebox fuckup I'm not real sure how "pure" of a libertarian he is, as it depends on the standard. I am pretty sure that Ron Paul did not believe in abolishing the public school system, so this guy sounds like some wingnut that took an idea to the extremes. It sounds like he would be the type to say that firefighters, highways ect. are not necessary, given that he keeps insisting that people shouldn't benefit from taxes and that he is extreme enough to say that the disabled, elderly, and veterans do not have a right to be provided health care.

Easy solution. Is he employed? Break his kneecap and ask him about medicare

Edit: Ask him if he could pay, out of pocket, the costs of, say, cancer. Could a single mom do so? And lastly, the cost/benefit of abandoning a potentially useful person and their dependents makes lively discussion. It's well and good to claim that we shouldn't need society's help. But even apes do that. So it comes down to insanity or quibbling over who runs welfare.

Posted by AnAppleSnail Easy solution. Is he employed? Break his kneecap and ask him about medicare Edit: Ask him if he could pay, out of pocket, the costs of, say, cancer. Could a single mom do so? And lastly, the cost/benefit of abandoning a potentially useful person and their dependents makes lively discussion. It's well and good to claim that we shouldn't need society's help. But even apes do that. So it comes down to insanity or quibbling over who runs welfare.

Good point. I was going to ask if we just release out state mental hospital population into the public (including forensic patients, the ones that presented a danger to society) and make them fend for themselves (or starve/freeze to death). He said something about how "bad genes" should not receive public support

Posted by jukebox fuckup Good point. I was going to ask if we just release out state mental hospital population into the public (including forensic patients, the ones that presented a danger to society) and make them fend for themselves (or starve/freeze to death). He said something about how "bad genes" should not receive public support

this guy is not a libertarian. this guy is an empty-headed, conservative balloonhead. pay no attention to ANYTHING that comes out of his mouth.

may i direct you to the Politics Board...

Posted by Samurai Posted by jukebox fuckup Good point. I was going to ask if we just release out state mental hospital population into the public (including forensic patients, the ones that presented a danger to society) and make them fend for themselves (or starve/freeze to death). He said something about how "bad genes" should not receive public support this guy is not a libertarian. this guy is an empty-headed, conservative balloonhead. pay no attention to ANYTHING that comes out of his mouth. may i direct you to the Politics Board...

Uh, yeah. With such emptyheaded declarations of who deserves to live, I'm gonna have to go with the brick solution.

Posted by Samurai this guy is not a libertarian. this guy is an empty-headed, conservative balloonhead. pay no attention to ANYTHING that comes out of his mouth. may i direct you to the Politics Board...

I just subscribed, and I'm hoping that a mod can move this topic

Sorry, we can't move a thread from one private board to another.

Posted by SaraBellum Sorry, we can't move a thread from one private board to another.

Would it be a faux pas for me to just repost?

I don't think so.