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The Road
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Sweet angry jesus I cannot wait to see this movie. Anyone read the book? It was fucking brilliant. So far, the previews look great and the character casting looks pretty good too. I only hope they keep certain aspects of the book, like how we never know; the characters names, how the world went to shit, etc. Also, since the book focused mainly around the man and his son, it really reinforced the overpowering sense of solitude and emptiness. If the producers decide to throw in too many unnecessary action scenes, it will take away from the work and make it into just another apocalyptic movie with no depth.

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< Reply # 1 on 9/9/2009 1:53 AM >
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Sweet angry jesus I cannot wait to see this movie. Anyone read the book? It was fucking brilliant. So far, the previews look great and the character casting looks pretty good too. I only hope they keep certain aspects of the book, like how we never know; the characters names, how the world went to shit, etc. Also, since the book focused mainly around the man and his son, it really reinforced the overpowering sense of solitude and emptiness. If the producers decide to throw in too many unnecessary action scenes, it will take away from the work and make it into just another apocalyptic movie with no depth.

So yes, can't wait!


The Road was far from brilliant.... what chapped my ass about the book was the fact that at the end, it felt like he just got tired of writing it and said fuck it. As a writer myself, the whole book felt like something bigger in the back of his brain and he just couldn't get it out in one lump. The book was cryptic, drifty, dreamy and just a little overdone. (Something like Swan Song by James McGammon) At the end of the book, it just ends... you're left with a character, frankly, you really don't give a shit about and a book that was forgettable.




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Sweet angry jesus I cannot wait to see this movie. Anyone read the book? It was fucking brilliant. So far, the previews look great and the character casting looks pretty good too. I only hope they keep certain aspects of the book, like how we never know; the characters names, how the world went to shit, etc. Also, since the book focused mainly around the man and his son, it really reinforced the overpowering sense of solitude and emptiness. If the producers decide to throw in too many unnecessary action scenes, it will take away from the work and make it into just another apocalyptic movie with no depth.

So yes, can't wait!


Yes the book was great.

But the movie should be made by Russians. They really know how to do lonely, end of the world movies.




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Definitely seeing this, hope the bbq'ed baby scene isn't too graphic lol.

The book was ok. Except the part when they left that shelter, with so much food left. Why!?

I did care about the boy at the end though, and wonder what kind of life he had with that family....




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Definitely seeing this, hope the bbq'ed baby scene isn't too graphic lol.

The book was ok. Except the part when they left that shelter, with so much food left. Why!?

I did care about the boy at the end though, and wonder what kind of life he had with that family....


Wow, fucking spoiler alert.




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Wow, fucking spoiler alert.


oh yeah, gotta watch that. well since you already quoted me it would be pointless for to edit my post now.







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Movie comes out tomorrow! Limited release though. Luckilly its playing at a theatre 20 minutes from us. We'll probably go Thanksgiving. Should be a nice pick-me-up




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< Reply # 7 on 11/27/2009 9:17 PM >
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Movie comes out tomorrow! Limited release though. Luckilly its playing at a theatre 20 minutes from us. We'll probably go Thanksgiving. Should be a nice pick-me-up


Well??!?





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Ehhh. It was ok.

OH SWEET JESUS... Spoilers.

They took out a lot, added some other stuff. Followed the basic storyline of the book. They took out the part with the baby on the spicket, but kept the half eaten bodies in the cellar. The acting was alright. They fucked up the ending. Yes the guy dies and the kid comes across the "good guys", but you never see the fish in the river. He meets the good guys and it ends. I thought that specific part with the fish was one of the most important events in the book. It showed hope. Not just for the kid, but for LIFE. I don't understand why they would cut such a simple, but fufilling scene. Anyways, the movie seemed somewhat bland. I didn't feel emotionally attached to the characters at all. When the book ended, I'll admit a few tears came to my eyes. When the movie ended, I was just glad it was over.

I give it a 5/10.




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Ehhh. It was ok.

OH SWEET JESUS... Spoilers.

They took out a lot, added some other stuff. Followed the basic storyline of the book. They took out the part with the baby on the spicket, but kept the half eaten bodies in the cellar. The acting was alright. They fucked up the ending. Yes the guy dies and the kid comes across the "good guys", but you never see the fish in the river. He meets the good guys and it ends. I thought that specific part with the fish was one of the most important events in the book. It showed hope. Not just for the kid, but for LIFE. I don't understand why they would cut such a simple, but fufilling scene. Anyways, the movie seemed somewhat bland. I didn't feel emotionally attached to the characters at all. When the book ended, I'll admit a few tears came to my eyes. When the movie ended, I was just glad it was over.

I give it a 5/10.



I thought the fish wasn't real, it just represented what was destroyed and would never return......basically saying the world was fucked, it was all over.




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I thought the fish wasn't real, it just represented what was destroyed and would never return......basically saying the world was fucked, it was all over.



Oh. I thought they actually saw them. Maybe the book was even MORE bleak and disconsolate then heh.




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Oh. I thought they actually saw them. Maybe the book was even MORE bleak and disconsolate then heh.


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I thought the fish wasn't real, it just represented what was destroyed and would never return......basically saying the world was fucked, it was all over.



They probably were metaphorical, but I would say in a more positive way, that there was indeed hope that the word would renew itself. One thing I always like about The Road was that it never specified what happened, which has been part and parcel of end-of-the-world literature since it began.




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The Road is what happened after 2012 left off.




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The Road is what happened after 2012 left off.


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I thought that specific part with the fish was one of the most important events in the book. It showed hope. Not just for the kid, but for LIFE. I don't understand why they would cut such a simple, but fufilling scene.


Perhaps it is just cutting out an overt christian metaphor? Not having seen it, I feel like I would have cut that scene out just like I would have ended Children of Men a shoot sooner.




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Alright, I finally saw this and I thought it was GOD awful.

Aside from the kid being annoying as sin, the constant product placement, the lack of realistic foreboding set design in the cannibal scenes and it not being bleak enough, they never once faced having to make a moral choice outside of their good-guys/ bad-guys "code". (Anytime they have to make a choice it's never a hard one to make). I would have loved to see the dad being forced to decide if he should feed his son human flesh, or for there to have been some gray area that wasn't in the cinematography. The film seemed like it was too long while being too fast paced; I mean, how many people are they going to run into after everything in the world died?

After watching Omega Man and Delicatessen the same day, this film does not stack up.



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It was a pretty fair representation of the book, and that was somewhat of its failing as a movie. I enjoyed it, but didn't love it. The movie made me accept the mom as an understandable character more than the book did.

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Aside from the kid being annoying as sin

That's the way kids are.


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the constant product placement

What? A coke and some canned fruit? Or did you catch the model of the flare gun?


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the lack of realistic foreboding set design in the cannibal scenes

I think it wasn't that bad. They're cannibals, but they have a home and keep a little order. You've gotta have some comforts after a hard day of skinning babies.


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it not being bleak enough, they never once faced having to make a moral choice outside of their good-guys/ bad-guys "code". (Anytime they have to make a choice it's never a hard one to make). I would have loved to see the dad being forced to decide if he should feed his son human flesh, or for there to have been some gray area that wasn't in the cinematography.

Again, that might make a good movie, but that's not what the book was about. It wasn't about making hard choices in the Apocalypse. It was about a man and his son. They stayed closer to the book.






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It was a pretty fair representation of the book, and that was somewhat of its failing as a movie. I enjoyed it, but didn't love it. The movie made me accept the mom as an understandable character more than the book did.

I admit to not having gone through the book and I don't think I will after seeing the film.

That's the way kids are.

Perhaps, but he was particularly whiny, and if he had been raised in that sort of world I don't think he would have done some of the things he did: give up food for example (which also wasn't a hard choice for him to make). If he is seeing dead bodies all the time would it still bother him or would it be normal? He would have to be smarter and more cold than they made him out to be in order to live as long as he has, but instead he is whiny and dependent. How many times did his dad have to carry him in unnecessary situations?


What? A coke and some canned fruit? Or did you catch the model of the flare gun?

This is on the heals of Omega Man, and it did bother me. The fact that he drinks Jack Every-Whiskey pissed me off. Not to say it should have been Repo Man style, but I can't stand brand names in films. I'm used to flipping them around on set and expect the same of others. I mean, in the bunker, every single one is turned towards the camera. Did supermarket employees stock those shelves?


I think it wasn't that bad. They're cannibals, but they have a home and keep a little order. You've gotta have some comforts after a hard day of skinning babies.

Alright, again, this might be a nerd gripe, but you would not waste blood or bone marrow in that situation. The first cannibal house was alright, the second one was plain cartoony. Using the jaw bone of a horse to kill someone while there still are axes and metal pipes in the world? I've used a horse's jaw to smash things: they don't hold up very well. And skulls on sticks... come on. They would have cracked them open, eaten the gray matter, made broth from the marrow, etc.

Besides, only Mola Ram puts skulls on sticks. Those cannibals must have been all like "KALI MA!" and totally ripped a dude's heart out of his chest while it was still beating!

Again, that might make a good movie, but that's not what the book was about. It wasn't about making hard choices in the Apocalypse. It was about a man and his son. They stayed closer to the book.


Sure, but in doing so they kept too much of a black and white moral code for my taste. The kid is always on about "We're the good guys" so much so that I want him to have to actually test that assumption. There needed to be some sort of ambiguity especially since the whole thing is framed in a christian context, but that goes to the whole free will debate that's been going around for centuries. Instead the morality of the film is force fed to us, in simple terms, without a second thought. Above all that is my problem with the film, my other gripes are admittedly nitpicking.





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Perhaps, but he was particularly whiny, and if he had been raised in that sort of world I don't think he would have done some of the things he did: give up food for example (which also wasn't a hard choice for him to make). If he is seeing dead bodies all the time would it still bother him or would it be normal? He would have to be smarter and more cold than they made him out to be in order to live as long as he has, but instead he is whiny and dependent. How many times did his dad have to carry him in unnecessary situations?

Dude, my advice to you is not to have kids if you can't accept a little crying after you shoot the guy in the face who is holding a knife to your son's throat, splattering the guys head all over your son's face, and then spend the next 8 hours lying in mud hoping not to get killed. That just comes with the territory.

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Besides, only Mola Ram puts skulls on sticks. Those cannibals must have been all like "KALI MA!" and totally ripped a dude's heart out of his chest while it was still beating!

That was a very exciting part of the book!


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Sure, but in doing so they kept too much of a black and white moral code for my taste. The kid is always on about "We're the good guys" so much so that I want him to have to actually test that assumption.

Like I said, it's a story about a man and a boy. The boy yearns for black and white, for a way to make sense of things. The man strives to do whatever he needed to to survive, AND give the boy what he needed.



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There needed to be some sort of ambiguity especially since the whole thing is framed in a christian context, but that goes to the whole free will debate that's been going around for centuries. Instead the morality of the film is force fed to us, in simple terms, without a second thought. Above all that is my problem with the film, my other gripes are admittedly nitpicking.

Meh. To me, there is nothing about Christianity or morality or free will in it. Being a "good guy" is about truly staying alive.




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