JFC, people don't know how to use the brake and turn off the car nowadays? People have been driving with floormats bunching up under the pedals for decades!

If you die over a floormat you pretty much had it comming.

Yup, it's a process of natural selection.

These new push button switches take a hold in time of three seconds in order to kill the engine, thats a football field worth of distance just to begin the process of shutting down the car, while holding the button in, theres another football field of length to get her stopped, and that assuming you do everything right, and don't try the ignition switch a few times, push the button 3 or 4 times, try the brakes that don't work all that well at 120mph, you might even try to unstick the peddle with your foot a few times before you try to reach down and use your hand.

1 more mile and he might have got it figured out, I heard the 911 tape, and he sounded calm and in control, till he ran out of road.

I think its just Toyota owners who have that problem

Honestly, the average Toyota owner would not have enough automotive knowledge to think "hey, that feels like a floormat jammed under the brakes", they'd just think "OMG TOTAL BRAKE FAILURE" while spilling their Evian spring water and crashing into a pond, perhaps taking out some swans on the way in.

Posted by bandi Honestly, the average Toyota owner would not have enough automotive knowledge to think "hey, that feels like a floormat jammed under the brakes", they'd just think "OMG TOTAL BRAKE FAILURE" while spilling their Evian spring water and crashing into a pond, perhaps taking out some swans on the way in.

Those poor swans.

You guys are just plain mean!!

Maybe it's a Toyota problem, but Lexus is a spawn of mother Toyota, From what I was reading, this incident with the Lexus is what caused the Toyota recall, and I think I remember the number of vehicles to be recalled is over 3 million? Thats a shitload of cars......

Posted by cr400 You guys are just plain mean!! Maybe it's a Toyota problem, but Lexus is a spawn of mother Toyota, From what I was reading, this incident with the Lexus is what caused the Toyota recall, and I think I remember the number of vehicles to be recalled is over 3 million? Thats a shitload of cars......

From what I have read, its Toyota's largest recall.

That entire senerio and and they never think "hey, pop it into neutral". Or use the clutch. Or hand brake. Or guardrail. Or. .....

i forget who said it, but the average Toyota/ Scion/ Lexus buyer gets more excited over buying kitchen appliances or sandals than buying a car. On top of that, most people buy toyotas because they don't want to know what's going on with the car, don't need to know what's going on with the car or have the understanding to FIX the car. Is this no suprise?

Posted by Samurai i forget who said it, but the average Toyota/ Scion/ Lexus buyer gets more excited over buying kitchen appliances or sandals than buying a car. On top of that, most people buy toyotas because they don't want to know what's going on with the car, don't need to know what's going on with the car or have the understanding to FIX the car. Is this no suprise?

Oh that was all me... I've even been quoted in someone's signature on this site

I've noticed over the years the trend of having a pretty cover over the motor, I'm guessing this is to cover all those nasty leaky things that are so prevalent around fuel, oil, hydraulic and cooling systems. You'll even notice some of the hot rod coupes, and trucks doing this.............I wanna see fucking motors people..........Plus I want to be able to spot a small leak, before it becomes a big leak, or worse, a fire.


If you've ever had a throttle stick on you, you are aware of how time tends to slow down, what feels like a full minute, actually is only a few seconds. I've had it happen a few times over the years, it surely gets the blood pressure elevated.

I had an '82 Rabbit that would accelerate when it wanted to... and usually at a far faster rate then if I had the gas pedal floored.

Posted by bandi I had an '82 Rabbit that would accelerate when it wanted to... and usually at a far faster rate then if I had the gas pedal floored.

Sounds like it could be fun, but it will usually happen with a group of school kids directly in front of you,

Posted by cr400 I've noticed over the years the trend of having a pretty cover over the motor,

my 05 Cobalt had a cover over the engine as does my mom's G6 sedan... never understood why. My 2007 is all business... no dumb covers.


i likem no dumb covers.

Posted by bandi Oh that was all me... I've even been quoted in someone's signature on this site

you've been in my signature for a lot longer than I can remember.

That's awesome, cuz I just noticed it like 2 days ago...