Posted by White Rabbit I'm not saying there's no women who like porn. I've met a few. But generally? Nope. They're not into it. So, yes, porn is mainly, overwhelmingly, almost totally for men.

There is a LOT of porn for women. And a LOT of women who like it. It's just not in the form that we (men) like or even would recognize it as porn. And you're more likely to find it on livejournal than on the hun.
My ex-girlfriend used to get horny by reading erotic fanfics, yaoi or bishonen stories or sometimes mangas.

Fortunately, she never called me Harry or Naruto during sex

I don't have a clue what this has to do with the original post, though

mr. rabit... you have many valid points, but to you and to some of the others...

ya'll missed the MONEYSHOT(NO PUN)
she is "all full growd up", and has an itchen to try something new. shit!-the girl jumped out a good airplane... cuz she wanted to? to me that is truly jacked up.

she knows my past, yes, it has come up... but for fux sake, its my past. i was there and there aint no changin or hidin it. its there.

maybe, just maybe, i got one of the "the turn that changed my life" kinda thing. THINK ABOUT IT. it does happen.

i didn't have the patience to read your long-winded idiot post, but got as far as these two little gems.

Posted by White Rabbit Know why? Because women really aren't into porn. No, sorry. There are lots of lots of women who simply have little or no interest in masturbation.

just because straight women dont have sex with other women, doesn't mean we don't have best friends who we talk to about this shit.

a lot of women have a favorite free porn site and we like to touch ourselves. the end.

Well done WR.

Back on topic, if mmf 3somes aren't your thing but cuckolding/watching/suchnot is, tell her and see if it works out. Could be she just wants variety and felt a 3some was the only way to ask for it.



And back off topic:
Jess, that is in no way the end. So what if you know girls who watch free porn or read "romance" novels. Paysites are a huge industry, and do your girlfriends join them? Want to compare the numbers of skin magazines aimed at males vs females? How many strip clubs cater to women vs men.

And you like to touch yourself. Which is different than addicted. And when I say addicted, that's not hyperbole.

Also, you friends would never lie to you. Ever.

On the flip side, I do know good little xtian girls who would love a mmf threesome, but were disappointed because it's against the bible.

Posted by White Rabbit Know why? Because women really aren't into porn.

WR, I have to say that you're off-base about porn. Just because women may not always necessarily like the same porn as men, it doesn't mean that they're not into it. It just takes different forms. Have you ever flipped through a romance novel? There's sex all over the place, with the descriptions of the acts often being more erotic than male porn. By the way, no, I haven't made a habit of reading that kind of book. Also, my first girlfriend once wrote a short story, that had a plot revolving around her having sex with Satan. My second girlfriend wrote slash* stories involving members of The Cure and Duran Duran, and, while not my cup of tea, they were most definitely literary pornography. Lastly, my third girlfriend wrote a continuing story involving the erotic encounters of her and other female members of a message board to which we both belonged with Robert Smith of The Cure, though she was kind enough to make her role fairly minimal (she brushed off Robert's advances) in the one installment that she wrote during our relationship.

So, to sum it up, women are into porn, just not always the same kind as men. It's a reality. Deal with it.

*Slash: Slash fiction is a genre of fan fiction that focuses on the depiction of romantic or sexual relationships between characters of the same sex.

Posted by MindHacker Well done WR. Back on topic, if mmf 3somes aren't your thing but cuckolding/watching/suchnot is, tell her and see if it works out. Could be she just wants variety and felt a 3some was the only way to ask for it. And back off topic: Jess, that is in no way the end. So what if you know girls who watch free porn or read "romance" novels. Paysites are a huge industry, and do your girlfriends join them? Want to compare the numbers of skin magazines aimed at males vs females? How many strip clubs cater to women vs men. And you like to touch yourself. Which is different than addicted. And when I say addicted, that's not hyperbole. Also, you friends would never lie to you. Ever. On the flip side, I do know good little xtian girls who would love a mmf threesome, but were disappointed because it's against the bible.

haha, i didn't say women like porn MORE or as much as guys and i didn't say i was addicted to sex with myself, i was pointing out that it's a pretty broad statement to make that girls dont enjoy porn or masturbation. that's all i was saying.
also, why would my friends lie about watching porn? that makes no sense. it would more likely be the other way around.

Posted by Shawn W. WR, I have to say that you're off-base about porn. Just because women may not always necessarily like the same porn as men, it doesn't mean that they're not into it.

Yeah, women are into porn, but men are into porn. And women may enjoy porn, but men fucking love it. Can't get enough of it, actually.

To put this into perspective, Jess might have a friend who has a "favourite free porn site", but I have paid money for porn. Repeatedly. Even when there's been a wealth of free material right before me, I've shelled out $30+ hoping to get the perfect jack out of it. I've also spent hours (days?) on end downloading and watching the stuff. I've never done this at work, but I imagine plenty of guys have. We also tend to have (on average) at least 30 gigs of the stuff on our computers just in case the internet ever goes down. And if our computers stop working, we'll try to find porn on TV instead. Sometimes it's futile and we'll end up jacking it to the Golden Girls at 5:30 AM in a last-ditch effort to get something out of the night. We'll do this on top of frequent sex with our wives or girlfriends.

But according to you, this is on the same level as writing some erotic story involving Robert Smith putting Simon Le Bon's peen in his mouth.

Posted by micro Jess might have a friend who has a "favourite free porn site",

i can't pick a favorite actually

Pervert.

Posted by micro Yeah, women are into porn, but men are into porn. And women may enjoy porn, but men fucking love it. Can't get enough of it, actually. To put this into perspective, Jess might have a friend who has a "favourite free porn site", but I have paid money for porn. Repeatedly. Even when there's been a wealth of free material right before me, I've shelled out $30+ hoping to get the perfect jack out of it. I've also spent hours (days?) on end downloading and watching the stuff. I've never done this at work, but I imagine plenty of guys have. We also tend to have (on average) at least 30 gigs of the stuff on our computers just in case the internet ever goes down. And if our computers stop working, we'll try to find porn on TV instead. Sometimes it's futile and we'll end up jacking it to the Golden Girls at 5:30 AM in a last-ditch effort to get something out of the night. We'll do this on top of frequent sex with our wives or girlfriends. But according to you, this is on the same level as writing some erotic story involving Robert Smith putting Simon Le Bon's peen in his mouth.

Well, while I was with my last girlfriend, masturbation didn't even cross my mind when we were together (it was a long distance relationship). We had equal sex drives, and had a very satisfying sex life, so until near the end of my last trip to visit her, when her interest in sex just wasn't really there, I didn't feel the need to get off through manually stimulating myself.

As for the stories, they were more along the lines of Simon Gallup, The Cure's bassist, raping Robert, and Simon LeBon tricking Nick Rhodes into thinking that he'd had too much to drink on New Year's Eve, and then pinning him down on a bed and ripping off his clothes. Of course, all of her stories had a romantic slant to it with happy endings (no, not that kind of "happy ending"), where those involved finally admitted their feelings for one another. Yeah, like I said, not my thing. She also wanted me to buy her a gay porn film as a gift, so I did. I hope that she and the guy with whom she cheated on me, and eventually married, got off on it. Oh, and more on point, it depends on how your brain is wired. For the most part, men get off more on visual stimulation, while it's more in the mind with women. If you don't think that women are as into porn as men, then why have books such as Harlequin romance novels been around for as long as they have, and in such abundance? Somehow, I don't think that there's a big market for literary porn geared toward men, regardless of their sexual preference.

Posted by Stewie That's totally not true in my mother's case or any of the other females I've been with (aside from the current one)

Being that I never had a mother, I wouldn't know.

WR, I know at least a few girls with a masturbation addiction as you call it.

Most of the girls you have been with are conditioned if not all of them (As sexual attraction 90% conditioning, otherwise homosexuality would be much more prevalent than it is). The reason why you do not think that it is not conditioning is because it exists at the same level of your own conditioning. Disagree? Then go suck a cock. If you can't, you have no right to say that women are just different by genetics. Our culture is that of restraint. From the derogatory terms we use (ie closet whore), to the absurd ideals we put forth about actions, body, and thought that are obviously puritan. As and ex catholic, you have to know the funny ideas that are put in peoples heads, and our culture is mainly a christian one. The other part of our culture has to do with status, which is dominated by fashion(who the fuck do you know who is 5'10" and 110 pounds), music, money, and. Each portrays an image of a lifestyle, of some unattainable way of life and being. And it is everywhere. To say you are not affected by it is pure madness. Beyond just billboards and magazines, it is everyone you meet. Every opinion, every thought, all biased. Blah blah blah. Not like you are listening, you and everyone else in this world would rather be right, than sane.

On a side note:

Here is a woman who loves porn.

http://www.tinynibbles.com/

Oh and sorry for any typos, I had a tad too much Belgian beer. At 10 to 14 % alcohol, a few 750 ml bottles. . . ummmm yeah.

Posted by dirt Not to start a flame war but you are an idiot. Not because I disagree with there being something wrong in their relationship, there is. But because you have no grasp of anything besides a inflated sense of of "how things should be". Closet whore? What the fuck is wrong with you? Go stick your nose in a bible or something and keep your morals and judgments to yourself.

you can stfu you little cock munch that wasnt directied towards you and i say that becasue i know a few and by knowing a few i mean ive dated a few dont call me and idiot untill you know and what kinda shit is that go stick your nose in a bible i think that's for you or maby take that bible smack yourself across the face and hope that it knock's you out and you can be reborn into a real person

Posted by SourDiesel you can stfu you little cock munch that wasnt directied towards you and i say that becasue i know a few and by knowing a few i mean ive dated a few dont call me and idiot untill you know and what kinda shit is that go stick your nose in a bible i think that's for you or maby take that bible smack yourself across the face and hope that it knock's you out and you can be reborn into a real person

Posted by hydrotherapy

I wonder when Godwin will come around. Let's get back to on-topic ... was there any on-topic post here?

Posted by IIVQ Let's get back to on-topic ... was there any on-topic post here?

yes, lets gat back to the topic...


i have voiced my opinion to her about this matter. not that uer had anything to do with it... but im ok with it. so now the "ball" is in her court so to speak. we have talked about this in great detail, as fas as boundries and "safe" words and how the "meet & greet", "get together" and "youre done now, please leave" will go down. i think she will back out- but time will tell and we shall see.
i know that she understands that this is a VERY dangerous game to play, but yet still wishes to play it, just maybe not all the way...
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on second thought, mods please delete this whole thing- ill keep my personal life to myself from now on.