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| | | Re: LTB - Liquid Tire Balancing < Reply # 3 on 1/18/2010 12:22 AM > | Reply with Quote
| | | Posted by oddspot Centrifugal force as it rolls pushes the liquid to the low spot in the tire and voila.... balance. Anyone heard of, done this or have any thoughts? odds
| I thought an out-of-balance condition was caused by the tire having more weight in one area than another. I didn't think low spots would be a problem. But, now that I think about it a little more, I guess a low spot would have less material and therefore be lighter. Hmmm. Centrifugal force is one thing but fluid dynamics is another. Since the antifreeze isn't attached to the tire, wouldn't it always be trying to go slower than the tire? This is too much to think about. I gonna go get beer.
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| | | Re: LTB - Liquid Tire Balancing < Reply # 15 on 1/18/2010 11:57 PM > | Reply with Quote
| | | Posted by Mister Blister Farm tractors have liquid tire ballast added, usually in the form of liquid calcium chloride, which weighs about 40% more than water. Tractor tires are usually filled up to 70% or so full....this increases weight, and therefore traction, and lowers the tractor's center of gravity. Never heard of it on cars
| we are not talking about ballasting tires which would serve no purpose other than to increase unsprung weight and thus fuel consumption in a passenger car... kind of pointless to ballast a tire/wheel assembly if youve already paid a premium for alloy wheels so as to reduce unsprung weight in the first place? delta's ltb goes for $50/quart. i might go for this if it actually increased the tire life by a measurable amount. if i were to use it, i would have the tire run-up on a balancing machine and only add enough compound to slightly exceed the off-balance value, to keep the unsprung weight as low as possible. a lot of people do not understand the effect high unsprung weight has on a vehicle's handling characteristics on the highway. heavy tire/wheel combinations have a lot more inertia which results in reduced acceleration, increased braking distance/energy, and reduced tire contact with the road due to increased oscillation: the shock absorber has to work much harder to calm the wheel down after a bump. putting big fat flashy wheels on your car might look great but perform even more poorly than the conservative ugly 14" steelies you took off of it. dynamic balancing with lead weights is still the best solution for passenger car tire/wheel assemblies because they do not move, are no heavier than necessary, and do not have to be at a certain temperature or be shocked by oscillations in order to work. ltb isnt going to perform any miracles on your handling, performance or comfort unless you've already made a poor tire/wheel selection or have some other defect in your suspension in which case, focus on that area and spend your money on the actual problem. it should also be noted that for linehaul trucks, balancing media was developed for no other reason than to reduce the truck's operating costs. on a linehaul truck with 18 tires each costing $2-300 apiece 15% tire life gains make good financial sense; on a car, no. $50/quart to save 15% on tires? on a car? if you can afford to throw $50 at ltb compounds you probably already spent that 15% at the tanning salon...
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