as the title implies... i was watching car reviews over on youtube and the people that review cars for Cars.com, edmunds.com and kkb.com are flaming idiots that would be better off reviewing blenders or dishwashers for all their knowledge of all things automotive.

why don't actual car guys ever get to review cars?

Did they call the Cobalt a piece of shit or something?

Posted by yokes Did they call the Cobalt a piece of shit or something?

no... it wasn't that... hahaha... no it was just this level of stupidity. If you are reviewing a car and are calling yourself an expert, shouldn't you at least know what features like no-lift shifting are? VVT? No the difference between direct injection and sequential?

After working with a team of automotive journalists during my Mitsubishi Evo and RalliArt builds, I can say most of them know NOTHING about cars.
One who I do respect though, is John LeBlanc.

(The man who hates the Prius, because the Prius is the car for people who hate cars)

what set me off was a review of the 09 Cobalt SS/TC... the guy was talking about the no-lift shift feature. He looks at the camera and says "if I wanted an automatic, i'd have bougt one."
there is a big difference between a no-lift shift in a manual transmission, turbocharged equipped car and an automatic transmission... it's just how fucking stupid are these people? And other people actually LISTEN to what these fucking toolboxes have to say?

I have to agree. There's only sources of automotive journalism I trust: MotorWeek (who reviews cars with a full battering ram of tests) and Jeremy Clarkson.

And Bandi, at Oregon Trail, ESPN sent two photographers to the event who normally cover...LACROSSE. And they were idiots because they drove onto a HOT stage.

Oh, yeah Jeremy Clarkson, James May and Richard Hammond.

They're saints.

Nothing beats the Top Gear challenges!

Posted by bandi Oh, yeah Jeremy Clarkson, James May and Richard Hammond. They're saints.

Oh yeah..even Clarkson has said that auto journalists need to "grow balls" or something to that effect.

IMO skelly should be an auto journalist

Posted by Nismo IMO skelly should be an auto journalist

About time you get something right!

Posted by Samurai as the title implies... i was watching car reviews over on youtube and the people that review cars for Cars.com, edmunds.com and kkb.com are flaming idiots that would be better off reviewing blenders or dishwashers for all their knowledge of all things automotive. why don't actual car guys ever get to review cars?

when was the last time you met an actual car guy with a creative writing degree or the interpersonal skills to land a job with a publishing company or e-company? Ive only met one, and he's having a hell of a time finding a good-paying job writing print for car sites or anything else. No one in the publishing business gets into that business to write automotive articles with integrity anymore, they do it to sell papers/ad space/ad hits/get market share and most consumers of automotive journalism can't properly tell the difference anyway.

motorweek/clarkson are all well and good but what publishing company has the technical wherewithal to give them a good run? it's just easier to pump out crap that's fun to read and easy to sell. it's publishing, not wrenching. id love to see more choices worth caring about but who's going to put it into print? it's damn hard to write an article that's both technically correct and enjoyable for people to read... john Q falls asleep when an article gets too technical...

Posted by steponmebbbboom when was the last time you met an actual car guy with a creative writing degree or the interpersonal skills to land a job with a publishing company or e-company? Ive only met one, and he's having a hell of a time finding a good-paying job writing print for car sites or anything else. No one in the publishing business gets into that business to write automotive articles with integrity anymore, they do it to sell papers/ad space/ad hits/get market share and most consumers of automotive journalism can't properly tell the difference anyway. motorweek/clarkson are all well and good but what publishing company has the technical wherewithal to give them a good run? it's just easier to pump out crap that's fun to read and easy to sell. it's publishing, not wrenching. id love to see more choices worth caring about but who's going to put it into print? it's damn hard to write an article that's both technically correct and enjoyable for people to read... john Q falls asleep when an article gets too technical...

hello. (Waves)
ok... i don't have a degree, but I have been writing since i was 12.

i'm not looking for an ubertechnical article... just at least have some knowledge of what you're talking about at least.

Posted by Samurai hello. (Waves) ok... i don't have a degree, but I have been writing since i was 12. i'm not looking for an ubertechnical article... just at least have some knowledge of what you're talking about at least.

ever hear of daniel stern? he writes for allpar on occasion... and a few other places

Posted by steponmebbbboom ever hear of daniel stern? he writes for allpar on occasion... and a few other places

i take that this is someone i should seek out to read?

Posted by Samurai why don't actual car guys ever get to review cars?

Because car buyers who use online reviews as a major factor in car buying don't know much about cars either?

I write, too.

And yes, they're automotive articles.

Its why I enjoy Jp Magazine. The guys are Jeepers first, writers second but they get the point across, with humor usually.

Because people buying cars after reading magazine reviews don't care, either. They want simple and strong opinions fed to them.

Holy shit, they redesigned the cupholders in the B-Package Corolla? SOLD!