Posted by budda I've learned quite a bit since my acid trip. I came to the conclusion that it's wrong to harbor anger and holding on to it only gives power to your inner demons and whatnot and the less energy you give to misfortune the the happier you will be overall. I've found it quite hard to stay angry since I no longer see a point to it.

Werd, I hardly get angry any more and can't stay angry for long...

Posted by budda That is quite true. Acid was an eye opening experience. Although it's mildly pretentious to criticize me for stepping back from the gravity of self realization and enjoying a little visual masturbation (along with some wacky mac) for 15% of my trip, you do raise some very good points that I absolutely agree with. I've learned quite a bit since my acid trip. I came to the conclusion that it's wrong to harbor anger and holding on to it only gives power to your inner demons and whatnot and the less energy you give to misfortune the the happier you will be overall. I've found it quite hard to stay angry since I no longer see a point to it. It's an eye opening drug indeed, and to suggest I am only using it as a "party drug" is unfair. All I did was suggest a movie (that has some interesting concepts to think about along with undertones of self expression and personal freedom), some music, and the use of crayons.

Well there we go, depth. That's what I like to see, not because LSD is supposed to be deep. Like that somehow if it is not deep you are not doing it right. But LSD is deep. That is it's very nature. While I will admit that I'm forcing my will on you, it is for a good reason. I want the dialog around psychedelics to change. For it to be recognized for what it is. Mushrooms, LSD, Peyote, Ayahuasca, these are not dangerous drugs. They are when abused, and so can aspirin. Anything abused is dangerous. Here in California, I have high hopes. We are trying to legalize Pot. Marijuana, while much enjoyed, is not all that great. I see tons of marijuana abuse. I can also see it's legitimate uses. From inducing hunger on cancer patients, to relieving pain of those suffering from AIDS. These are true stories of people I know. The point is, the dialog has changed around marijuana.

Can you blame me for wanting the legalization of Psychedelics?

Posted by dirt Well there we go, depth. That's what I like to see, not because LSD is supposed to be deep. Like that somehow if it is not deep you are not doing it right. But LSD is deep. That is it's very nature. While I will admit that I'm forcing my will on you, it is for a good reason. I want the dialog around psychedelics to change. For it to be recognized for what it is. Mushrooms, LSD, Peyote, Ayahuasca, these are not dangerous drugs. They are when abused, and so can aspirin. Anything abused is dangerous. Here in California, I have high hopes. We are trying to legalize Pot. Marijuana, while much enjoyed, is not all that great. I see tons of marijuana abuse. I can also see it's legitimate uses. From inducing hunger on cancer patients, to relieving pain of those suffering from AIDS. These are true stories of people I know. The point is, the dialog has changed around marijuana. Can you blame me for wanting the legalization of Psychedelics?

Its foolish for the government to disallow any kind of research into psychedelic use, fuck em.

Posted by dirt Well there we go, depth. That's what I like to see, not because LSD is supposed to be deep. Like that somehow if it is not deep you are not doing it right. But LSD is deep. That is it's very nature. While I will admit that I'm forcing my will on you, it is for a good reason. I want the dialog around psychedelics to change. For it to be recognized for what it is. Mushrooms, LSD, Peyote, Ayahuasca, these are not dangerous drugs. They are when abused, and so can aspirin. Anything abused is dangerous. Here in California, I have high hopes. We are trying to legalize Pot. Marijuana, while much enjoyed, is not all that great. I see tons of marijuana abuse. I can also see it's legitimate uses. From inducing hunger on cancer patients, to relieving pain of those suffering from AIDS. These are true stories of people I know. The point is, the dialog has changed around marijuana. Can you blame me for wanting the legalization of Psychedelics?

Edit: sorry it's so long. I didn't think it would be when i started typing.
TL;DR - Drug legislation has become a fucking witch hunt, and there should be no such thing as a nonviolent felony.


I'm a little curious what you classify as marijuana abuse. Would that be using it as a daily dose of "fuck it" after a long day of work? Or trying to smoke till you get super fucked up high and experience something? Or would it be for any purpose other than medicinal?

The way I see it, regardless of the use of a drug, it's not really abusive until you let it run your life or something like that. When you feel the need to participate in such activity to maintain a state of normalcy is what I would classify as abuse. People smoke weed to get high. That's it's general purpose. It's kinda hard to abuse that.

I would love to see it legalized, especially having just got busted for paraphernalia under some really shitty circumstances. I saw my best friend get shot and robbed while at a party, and just happened to still have my pipe on me (and 2 xanax i've had for years that given the circumstances I thought could be useful. as I went through the metal detectors at the hospital that night. It's really hard to express what kind of shit it is to be waiting in a holding cell looking at prison time for felony possession while not even sure if my friend is alive. I was lucky enough to only get charged with the pipe (an M4. Should be nothing more than a small fine.)

Seriously though. In a 2008 survey 20.1 million americans admitted to illicit drug use. That's a number larger than the entire population of any state (excluding California and Texas) That's a larger percentage of the population than there are Asians in the united states. I can near guarantee if someone's given some xanax, they're probably not gonna throw it away. They're either gonna save it for a rainy day or take it. By this logic I am quite fucking typical.

I'm not a dealer. I don't rob people. I am a caring person who absolutely denounces violence and will help anybody I can when I can. Is it fair for me to spend a year in prison, get fired, kicked out of school and face a future of struggling to find mediocre jobs (nobody hires felons) just because of 2 pills that I had no intention of using to get high? In short no. And I am forever thankful to the arresting officer who believed that.

I agree that I am stupid for not checking my pockets before entering. There's no getting around that. Given the fact I was still a little drunk and just saw some serious shit I wasn't exactly prone to remembering specific non important details. I wasn't concerned about myself. I just wanted to know he was ok. (he's recovering well btw)

I think the money spent in jailing and prosecuting nonviolent drug affenders should go to programs to help people beat addiction. While I agree it should be illegal to sell prescription drugs to those without prescriptions, having them should be legal regardless of how you obtained them unless you can prove intent. To be honest, if you are dumb enough to use pills in a way that you get addicted to them, well then that's your own punishment for being so fucking stupid.

Back on pot legislation.....

The problem is the government imposing an ideal as to what people should or should not be doing in the safety of their own homes. The basic idea of the america and the constitution was to have the right to do anything that does not infringe upon the rights of others. While that is not explicitly stated that is the general idea, anyone who's taken an 8th grade social studies class can agree it was, and by that logic To outlaw marijuana is anti American. That's why prohibition got overturned.

You are right, in that our war on drugs is just an ideal. That war will never be won because it's scope is way to wide. I personally would love to see a good amount of real drug dealers put away for a really long time. Like for instance the meth dealer who my ex decided to live with and fuck for drugs. Who would choke her out if she got out of line. Who punches a pregnant girlfriend in the gut. I wish that people like him never see the light of day. Gangs are another thing I would love to see go away. If one was to legalize pot, a good number of their business goes away. I'm not sure where you live, but I grew up in Los Angeles. And the street gangs ruled the streets. Fuck them.

In terms of pot abuse, the everyday user who doesn't have a medical reason abuses it. I have noticed a wide range of psychological damage from habitual use. Anger, Paranoia, Passive aggressiveness, the list could go on. It's not healthy to do anything everyday. Do I think Pot is bad, no, it like a long list of other narcotics it has it's place as a plant healer and teacher.

I'm having a bad trip right now. I'm getting bitched at by my mom who doesn't know I'm tripping my ass off, who shouldn't know anyway. I just turned 21 yesterday and now I gotta go get my license. So I totally feel bad all over.

Otherwise it was a good trip so far. Dropped it with Shawna at 1am, listened to music and talked about musics impact in making our life cool and how much we love playing guitar and all that spiritual stuff.

I don't know what to do.

Posted by budda I'm having a bad trip right now. I'm getting bitched at by my mom who doesn't know I'm tripping my ass off, who shouldn't know anyway. I just turned 21 yesterday and now I gotta go get my license. So I totally feel bad all over. Otherwise it was a good trip so far. Dropped it with Shawna at 1am, listened to music and talked about musics impact in making our life cool and how much we love playing guitar and all that spiritual stuff. I don't know what to do.

Sit back, relax.

Yeah i did. Since I had to go to the DMV anyway i took a short little back roads cruise and listened to blind melon. It really chilled me out. Anytime you;re on acid you really must avoid all authoritative contact. Scrutiny and acid don't mix. And when you feel bad in your mind it makes your body feel sick. Very powerful psycho-somatic shit.

Posted by budda I'm having a bad trip right now. I'm getting bitched at by my mom who doesn't know I'm tripping my ass off, who shouldn't know anyway. I just turned 21 yesterday and now I gotta go get my license. So I totally feel bad all over. Otherwise it was a good trip so far. Dropped it with Shawna at 1am, listened to music and talked about musics impact in making our life cool and how much we love playing guitar and all that spiritual stuff. I don't know what to do.

You must be tripping...playing guitar and the impact of music making life cool as a spiritual experience?

Just say NO.

one time I thought my guitar was plugged into the amp while tripping, I was messing with my effects pedal and I totally thought the sound coming from my guitar was being modified by the effects pedal but it was totally unplugged hahaha...took about half an hour to realize.

Acid and cooking doesn't mix.

Posted by budda Acid and cooking doesn't mix.

I kind of loathe ham panini's because of this.

It really felt like you had to be gordon ramsey to figure out wacky mac.

Oryx, I really hope you give acid another shot. Every trip won't be like that.

It's better if you do it with one single person you trust and can be on the same page with.

You should try going out to the wilderness somewhere with someone and a radio full of tunes you like and just laying back and enjoying nature.

"weekend camping" on LSD!
here is how I do it:

-leave on Friday morning for your destination, start drinking once you arrive at your campsite/campground (your choice)
enjoy your Friday, set up camp and prep fr tomorrow.

-wake up Saturday, eat something, clean up beer bottles from last night.
*then drop at around 12pm noon...
while tripping-out through out the early afternoon,
NOW- enjoy "the great outdoors" slowly drink...
paint, take pictures, build a fire, draw, listen to tunes, continue drinking,
make something to eat- then don't eat it, smoke some dope... drink
what ever you like to do.
by the time night falls, your buzz is leveling off and drunkenness is taking over...
pass out about midnight.
Sunday wake up, pack up and back to the real world.

PERFECT!
this also works at the cottage.

Posted by White Rabbit Oryx, I really hope you give acid another shot. Every trip won't be like that. It's better if you do it with one single person you trust and can be on the same page with. You should try going out to the wilderness somewhere with someone and a radio full of tunes you like and just laying back and enjoying nature.

I actually do want to try acid again. I'm a little worried about getting another 3 day headache though. Some people thought I may have gotten more than one dose since it lasted so long. I would ideally like to be camping or at least able to wander around outside away from civilization. I loved being high up and able to stare at the sky for hours. During the first trip they had the Beatles playing. It sounded really strange and completely different. I wasn't too into the music though. Didn't really do anything for me. I definitely want to have plenty of pencils/paints handy again too.