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Samurai Vehicular Lord Rick
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| | | Re: 2012 Beetle Revealed! < Reply # 2 on 4/18/2011 3:57 PM > | Reply with Quote
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| bandi Lippy Mechanic Bastard
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| | | | Re: 2012 Beetle Revealed! < Reply # 16 on 4/19/2011 2:14 PM > | Reply with Quote
| | | Posted by Agent Skelly There is apart of me that wants to say that VW should return the Bug to its roots in the "people's car". Correct if me I am wrong, but its kind of the original econobox in a way and lets face it, it rocked. I know things have changed since then but, I think it could done still.
| I think it's kinda cool how it's evolved into kind of a premium car. There was talk of bringing out a microcar called the "baby beetle" to compete with the smart car, but I haven't heard any talk about that in a few years. Hey Bandi...apparently VW might renew the Chrysler Van deal when the contract runs out...which is interestingly right around the time of the 30th Anniversary of the Caravan and a major redesign is due. Thats right, 30 years of telling Consumer Reports they are wrong
| I doubt it, VW fired everyone who was involved with the Routan deal. The Routan is such a headache, it's not compatible with any of the Volkswagen diagnostic stuff (We have a StarMobile thing for it), and the problems they have are just pure quality control things (Front and rear bumper skins don't stay on properly, headlights fill up with water, seat fabric stretches, sliding door harnesses get caught, constant EVAP leaks causing check engine lights, and premature rear brake wear). We had one customer's tranny grenade at 4,500 km too. I did have to laugh at the headlights though, the light diffuser has a VW logo built into it... but the back of the light says "Mopar/Valeo"
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| Agent Skelly Web Sheriff
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| | | | | | Re: 2012 Beetle Revealed! < Reply # 19 on 4/19/2011 11:12 PM > | Reply with Quote
| | | Posted by bandi I doubt it, VW fired everyone who was involved with the Routan deal. The Routan is such a headache, it's not compatible with any of the Volkswagen diagnostic stuff (We have a StarMobile thing for it), and the problems they have are just pure quality control things (Front and rear bumper skins don't stay on properly, headlights fill up with water, seat fabric stretches, sliding door harnesses get caught, constant EVAP leaks causing check engine lights, and premature rear brake wear). We had one customer's tranny grenade at 4,500 km too. I did have to laugh at the headlights though, the light diffuser has a VW logo built into it... but the back of the light says "Mopar/Valeo"
| Its intersting to hear that! I know historically, the Caravans had some odd issues with every generation, but man, those issues are some of the oddest I have heard. I have friends (with kids may I add too) who own the current generation Caravan and they really have not taken the car into the dealer for quality issues far as I know of. However, I should ask the owner of a wheelchair van dealer I know since he sells and services converted Dodge Caravans among others. I figure he's a good neutral party. Perhaps GM and Chrsyler send all the cars that only pass basic QC checks to your town in Ontario I think VW might be interested first in what the Chrysler/Fiat R&D team come up with first for the 30th anniversary before making another deal. I don't think VW would bring the Sharan over here after the awful EuroVan sales...
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