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http://roissy.word...ts-make-bad-wives/


The whole blog is quite interesting. Thoughts?




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< Reply # 1 on 6/28/2011 3:40 PM >
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polyamory ftw?




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Best quote of the article:

"Maxim #80: The more cocks that have ravaged a woman, the less any one cock will mesmerize her."

Translation: We learn that not all men have an "A" game, or any game for that matter, and understand what "average" really means, then seek a notch above ;)




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^^ haha, well said




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Wow... Amusing read.

Just to note, sluts are also the first ones killed in horror movies.




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Wow... Amusing read.

Just to note, sluts are also the first ones killed in horror movies.


Well according to the article, I'm fucked either way. Hahaha!
*and I didn't even think I was a slut before I read this...



What about so called players thought? Men that have had multiple partners, how do they fair on the settling down and being faithful scale?

That article was sexist and one sided. Probably written by an average (or below) guy that's frustrated he can't get or keep the hot girl. My advise to him: Stop watching so much porn! It may look good on screen but trust me, it doesn't feel as good as it seems.



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What about so called players thought? Men that have had multiple partners, how do they fair on the settling down and being faithful scale? That article was sexist and one sided. Probably written by an average, or below, guy that frustrated he can't get, or keep, the hot girl.


I don't consider myself a player by any means, but I've had multiple partners ( >5 ). Some were one night stands or FWB situations, others were part of a long term relationship. Using that graph as a rough guide, I have an approxmately 30% chance of having a successful marriage. So, I guess it is no big surprise I'm in the middle of ending my marriage. Up until the day she moved out, I stayed true to my vows, didn't cheat, etc (even after 2+ years of no sex). Now, the marriage is over in all but the legal/paperwork aspect.

So...take that as you will.




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Well according to the article, I'm fucked either way. Hahaha!
*and I didn't even think I was a slut before I read this...


Me either! According to the scale I could actually improve my chances of a happy marriage, if I were to marry, if I sleep with a few more LOL


What about so called players thought? Men that have had multiple partners, how do they fair on the settling down and being faithful scale?

That article was sexist and one sided. Probably written by an average (or below) guy that's frustrated he can't get or keep the hot girl. My advise to him: Stop watching so much porn! It may look good on screen but trust me, it doesn't feel as good as it seems.


Of course it was sexist and one sided.

Post by WarBird69

Up until the day she moved out, I stayed true to my vows, didn't cheat, etc (even after 2+ years of no sex). Now, the marriage is over in all but the legal/paperwork aspect.

So...take that as you will.


I think most people, men and women, these days have had more then one partner and some a lot more then that.

But did your marriage end by infidelity or other reasons? And kudos to you for being true to your vows till she moved out.




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Posted by ActionSatisfaction Esq.
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The whole blog is quite interesting. Thoughts?


No, it is not interesting. It is backwards and juvenile. Let me deconstruct this persons argument.

There is an assumption that people who remain married are happier. It gives no information on this point because it can't. Some of you may know that those suffering from domestic abuse will make excuses on the part of their significant other. Someone who has not known any better will stay in an abusive relationship out of dependency. On the flip side of this, I would like to know the percentage of people who have had many partners and are still married and are happy. There is yet another side to this. Who says marriage is even natural? Who says that monogamy is the the only suitable form of relationships?

As for my own opinion, Sexuality is something be explored. There are studies about how orgasm prolongs a persons life expectancy. There are even theory on how female ejaculate has anti-bacterial properties to that the person is less likely to get UTI's. It is also my personal belief that everyone is potentially bisexual and polyamourous. That it is conditioning that causes people to limit themselves. Look at every relationship that has ever fallen apart on you. It did so for these key reasons: Abuse, stagnation, miscommunication, and/or complacency. The last one is tricky and shows up in a myriad of ways, most commonly "growing apart". How this ties into polyamoury is that humans are complex. At times, a person will deny feelings because of moral objections to cheating. To deny feelings on a constant basis will lead to going unconscious both in the relationship and emotionally. People are complex, and they are always changing. Everyday. When you have one or even two unconscious people in a relationship, they will drift apart. Another fact. No one person can meet all your needs. Some needs, need to be fulfilled to allow for growth. When those needs are not met, resentments arise. This can lead to abuse. Most people, due to the fact they subscribe to our cultures mode of being do not know how to communicate properly. They don't know how to communicate needs, desires, expectations, "rules" etc etc etc. In some cases the thought has never occurred to them. Now imagine having to negotiate an open relationship.

Now to tackle the notion of "sluts". The idea of a slut is completely cultural. There were all those graphs that showed these "scientific" numbers. And yet, I would dare any of you to come up with hard scientific number of partners that defines a "slut". The word slut is derogatory in nature, and is used to create shame so that a person won't explore their sexuality. It is used to control.

Now advice: if you ever meet someone who has uncontrollable jealousy or uses the word slut in a derogatory manor, note these as red flags and steer clear away. You will only waste your time or worse.




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But did your marriage end by infidelity or other reasons? And kudos to you for being true to your vows till she moved out.


The reasons the marriage ended are complicated (as is most situations involving men and women!). However, the "straw that broke the camel's back" is a rumor surfaced that I was cheating on her with a girl at work. The rumor simply wasn't true, and there was no evidence to substantiate the claim (seeing as it's not true?), but she chose to believe the other person over me. Perhaps had we not been so unhappy, things would've worked out differently, but that leads me to my next point...

Things happen for a reason. I'm much better off today than I was a little over one year ago. I'm a different person, both physically (lost 35ish lbs) and mentally. From the ashes of my marriage, I have been reborn anew.

C'est la vie.



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No, it is not interesting. It is backwards and juvenile. Let me deconstruct this persons argument.



Maybe interesting was a bad word, I think L'Ali said amusing. That fits better.

Also, good post.


I'm wondering mostly the legitimacy of the study that shows virgins to be more faithful in marriage. I'm pretty sure the simple want to explore more then just one penis or vagina in a person's lifetime would drive them to cheat. Perhaps religion has something to do with the results. Also, I wonder what the study on men showed. Do you think it would it be similar or opposite?




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No, it is not interesting. It is backwards and juvenile. Let me deconstruct this persons argument.



Very good deconstruction. Agreed.

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Things happen for a reason. I'm much better off today than I was a little over one year ago. I'm a different person, both physically (lost 35ish lbs) and mentally. From the ashes of my marriage, I have been reborn anew.

C'est la vie.


There's always a bunch of other stuff. You live, learn, experience and move on. And congrats

Oui oui c'est la vie.




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It is also my personal belief that everyone is potentially bisexual and polyamourous. That it is conditioning that causes people to limit themselves.

Great point - depending on who/what you subscribe to, social stigma or moral opinion will cause repression (limitation)

Posted by dirt
Look at every relationship that has ever fallen apart on you. It did so for these key reasons: Abuse, stagnation, miscommunication, and/or complacency. The last one is tricky and shows up in a myriad of ways, most commonly "growing apart". How this ties into polyamoury is that humans are complex. At times, a person will deny feelings because of moral objections to cheating. To deny feelings on a constant basis will lead to going unconscious both in the relationship and emotionally. People are complex, and they are always changing. Everyday. When you have one or even two unconscious people in a relationship, they will drift apart.


+1 - complacency = death.. How often do you see some couple divorce after 20+ years of marriage? Ideally, in a true "committed" relationship, each people gives the other room to grow, as well as change.. Those who are repressed either cope with their ever changing mentality by denying, cheating or numbing..

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Another fact. No one person can meet all your needs. Some needs, need to be fulfilled to allow for growth. When those needs are not met, resentments arise. This can lead to abuse. Most people, due to the fact they subscribe to our cultures mode of being do not know how to communicate properly. They don't know how to communicate needs, desires, expectations, "rules" etc etc etc. In some cases the thought has never occurred to them. Now imagine having to negotiate an open relationship.


Lack of Communication tends to be one of the biggest culprits for divorce. Sometimes it is due to fear of judgement, or fear of response.

Now, reading the article, I am somewhere in the 50% divorce category - I've also been married 15 yrs.. I'll be the first to admit that communication is our #1 biggest problem - she comes from a seriously repressive catholic school guilt upbringing, and has a meddling single mother (70yrs old) with a very conservative view of life - I am very liberal thinking and can rationalize exploration of life/fantasies to allow each other to grow, together, rather than separately (hence apart) - most of my fantasies and her fantasies are actually very much the same - sounds perfect, right?

Any chance/thought of her pursuing a fantasy is almost immediately squashed by that guilt/ judgement feeling. Any suggestion/thought of me pursuing a fantasy is immediately squashed by what her reaction would be, or filed away (repressed) because of risk of judgement/denial

.. Throw kids into the mix and I can't see it getting any better as we get older - like a pressure cooker, waiting to explode, complacency until we end up two room mates with kids.... Sigh....




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There's also a statistic that people who live together before getting married have an astronomically higher chance of getting divorced. What they fail to mention, however, is that 90% of people (I think that's the stat now) in the U.S. live together before getting married, and those 10% remaining are more likely to stay in a marriage despite unhappiness (or even abuse) because of religious doctrine.

People are marrying later in life, so they're going to have life experience.

A woman who is a virgin when she gets married is likely young or extremely religious.

The entire article comes across as being written by a very angry, very bitter man.





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You can tell it's written by one of those cyber don juan "I am the prize" pickup artist types. I've seen those sites before - posters usually end up incredibly bitter and woman-hating and say they are turned off on American "westernized" women forever. Christ dudes it's just not that serious. Trying to estimate the number of a woman's past sexual partners? Good luck with that. Trying to come up with a statistical percentage for having a good marriage? Weak. How about just saying: "Past behavior is the best indicator of future behavior." Even then, you can be making dangerous assumptions. Who would want to end up bonded with an inexperienced uptight prude?



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Now advice: if you ever meet someone who has uncontrollable jealousy or uses the word slut in a derogatory manor, note these as red flags and steer clear away. You will only waste your time or worse.



Other red flags include him being an alcoholic and punching you in the head.
I know this information is pertinent to UER women.


I think the more people you've gotten to know well, the more likely you are to know when you've found the person you want to be with for the rest of your life? Does that make any sense?
Doesn't necessarily mean sexual partners, but it is common to sleep with people you're dating and move in together in North America - I'm pretty sure that would make 99% of the population slutty as hell on that graph

Article seemed poorly written and without much point to me.




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I tried to take it somewhat tongue in cheek - the whole Alpha male internet badass aspect sucked me in...

I'd love to see this level of sluttiness % tracked across history.. While the 60's were free love, the 70's was the swinging age, the 80's was the reality of promiscuity (AIDS) - the 90's were subdued, and the last decade has glorified bisexuality...

Does this mean women would be programed along those lines as well - that is , a woman born in the 50's would be looser than one born in the 70's? or that a woman born after 90 is more likely to be bisexual??

Also, how does this translate across divorce likelihood - does a marriage in the 50's have a better chance of survival than one in the 70's or 90's....




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Other red flags include him being an alcoholic and punching you in the head.
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If I were you I would have just let the comment slide and pm'd me if you had any problems with it. Now it's just ridiculously obvious.





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//chuckle chuckle//




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