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< on 2/13/2007 3:35 PM >
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So I tried the HDR-ish thing for the first time. I'm generally not a fan of it because I like it to be pretty subtle, but I was taking photos of this place and thought it could look good. I only used Photoshop to put the photos together. Anyway...constructive criticism would be great.






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Re: Just one...
< Reply # 1 on 2/22/2007 9:12 AM >
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First the horizon line seems a bit crooked. Secondly I never made a hdr image but from what I've red on this board it's point would be to wether create a very pleasant chromatic photo or to present more detail of what you're seeing. In this picture there is actually less detail (it's predominant the underexposed photo) and the blue tone of everything doesn't interest me that much personally (but maybe it has different effects on different people).
Keep trying and you'll surely get better.;)




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< Reply # 2 on 2/23/2007 8:39 PM >
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I fixed the tilt. I actually like the blue. That's the color it was straight off the camera...I didn't touch the color at all. Maybe it is overkill. The detail was brought out in the houses...they were really dark in the first two photos. I don't know...I'm not going for a "This is my HDR" photo, because I don't care if it fits the definition of HDR or anything, really...I just want it to look good. I'll edit it out of my initial post (nevermind, forgot you can't edit older posts).



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What would you do with this?
< Reply # 3 on 3/2/2007 5:21 PM >
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I don't know why I have such a fascination with waterslides, but I love them. Tell me, how would you make these shots better?










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Re: What would you do with this?
< Reply # 4 on 3/2/2007 9:06 PM >
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Well, the lighting in the first two seems kind of flat. Might want to try on a less overcast day during, say, the afternoon hours. Other than that, unless, you going for more abstract detail, try stepping back to get more of the slide into frame. If you can't then I suggest a wider lense.




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Well, the lighting in the first two seems kind of flat. Might want to try on a less overcast day during, say, the afternoon hours. Other than that, unless, you going for more abstract detail, try stepping back to get more of the slide into frame. If you can't then I suggest a wider lense.


Thanks. I'm going back there in 2 weeks so hopefully I'll get a less overcast day to try again.

I couldn't step back on the third because I was using the stair rail as my tripod ;]





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For the first picture I would consider increasing the exposure time to bring out the colours. The sky would be white and washed out, but its not like you'd be losing any detail on an overcast day.




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< Reply # 7 on 3/6/2007 8:50 PM >
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The subjects arent that appealing, so smaller image size is perfect.

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The subjects arent that appealing, so smaller image size is perfect.



Yeah I didn't actually intend for them to be so large...




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Yeah I didn't actually intend for them to be so large...


They look GREAT in smaller sizes.




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< Reply # 10 on 3/16/2007 10:48 PM >
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Number 1 is totally flat. Composition is boring. I would wait for a cloudless day, shoot around 4 or 5pm, and include the left outer curve of the slide into the frame. The support for the slide really isnt interesting, because I'm assuming the slide is the focal point(?).

Number 2 has what looks to be fog on the lens, or some sort of condensation from the hot tub(?) I wouldve tried to avoid that at all costs, and not include the tub in the frame at all.

Number three is pretty good compositionally. But it still seems kind of dull. I would have tightened up the framing in the right to get rid of the blow outs, as well as to not include the distracting supports for the slide.




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Looked nice. So I shot it.




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Work has me in this neighborhood quite often, so I started to carry a camera around whenever possible, problem is that I never seem to remember that I've got it with me.


A drug addicts abandoned room at the Roosevelt Hotel. One is content to live in abject squalor when their one and only goal in life is to do more drugs:





Every time I leave the Downtown East Side I am thankful that I never tried hard drugs. I try to imagine these people as somehow normal at some point in time - it's difficult to do.


On a lighter note, but not really, the mentally ill turned lose on the street can sometimes be very entertaining. I know this man's first name, but he prefers to be referred to by his "code name" of Agent Condor. In his delusion, he is a secret FBI/Police agent, he just hasn't been paid yet. He's one of my favorites, and I try to look out for him when I can:





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uuuuuuuu, what camera is that on the table in the first picture?
Anyway that place looks almost better than what the dorm rooms of some people I know used to look like in the first year of college!
As for the Condor shot try and get closer and fill the frame with that great character; something like this:





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uuuuuuuu, what camera is that on the table in the first picture?



An excellent question.



Anyway that place looks almost better than what the dorm rooms of some people I know used to look like in the first year of college!



Yep. Or any of the stoner's basement pads I once knew, etc. The second shot of the table doesn't work so well with me. It's a dirty cluttered table. The first shot is way better.



As for the Condor shot try and get closer and fill the frame with that great character; something like this:




I'm going to disagree here. The background provides the all important context, and situates the subject within a specific place and time. Otherwise, it's a portrait, which is fine, but it's a person smiling, and not a more intense person on the DTES of Vancouver whatever, etc.




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Posted by EXElentAs for the Condor shot try and get closer and fill the frame with that great character; something like this:




The background is needed for this subject.




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but it's a person smiling,

I think his face expresses his mental condition very well and that's what I like to capture and see - personal preference.

If you want to have a situational portrait (or how it's called?) at least try and experiment with different positions of the main subject in relation to the background instead of only placing him in the center. We (most of us) look at photos just as we read, from left to right so try placing your subject to the left and let some space to the right with something specific to the place he lives in: the focus will first fall on the condor and than as you move through the photo you start noticing his enviroment (ofcourse this is done in milliseconds but a photo with such a message has more impact than a "p&s pic" in most cases).





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Well, thanks for the tips, I wasn't really trying to be artistic when I took the picture, just wanted to show friends what things are like down there. As for Condor, he'd be far too difficult to pose. He moves around far too much, and never stays still.




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I think his face expresses his mental condition very well and that's what I like to capture and see


If that's the case, then make it a very tight crop, and exclude everything BUT his fact. Frame the shot around his face.

But I still disagree with cropping this shot at all.

There he is, caught between two places: a crowd of people on one side, and a darkened door on the other. THAT's his worl, and excluding a contextual reference dilutes the impact of the picture.

My $.02.




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