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 Tastee-Freeze
Location: Saskatoon. Saskatchewan.
Gender: Male
 |  |  | Out of curiosity...
< on 4/18/2012 2:08 AM >
|  | | | What is the best makeshift tool for removing manhole covers, which apparently average about 275 lbs in weight, from the street quickly, then replacing it just as fast?
Is there any ideal tool for this? Should I have a friend help me? And if I do get underground, what does the air quality tend to be like in a residential area compared to a downtown area?
Advice would be helpful.
Thanks.
- Tastee.
Entry to the rooftop playground is free, if you look up enough to know it's there.
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Steed
        
Location: Edmonton/Seoul
Gender: Male
Your Friendly Neighbourhood Race Traitor
| | | Re: Out of curiosity...
<Reply # 1 on 4/18/2012 2:29 AM >
| | | | The best way is to find another way in. An open drain entrance solves almost all the problems you're concerned about.
If that's not an option, you might just want to call it off for now. Removing manhole covers can be very dangerous.
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terapr0
Location: Sauga City
Gender: Male
www . tohellandback . net
| | | Re: Out of curiosity...
<Reply # 2 on 4/18/2012 2:54 AM >
| | | | whoever the hell told you they weight 275lbs has obviously never lifted one. They usually (in Canada) don't weigh more than 80-90lbs and can be pulled out with a stick if need be. I've also used a tool made out of wire & a pivoting steel rod, but you can use a lot of things. Sticks (fresh green wood about 1.5" thick w/ some knots) actually work surprisingly well....obviously not the best in a crowded city, but if you're anywhere near large trees, just scan around, you can usually find something quick.
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Tastee-Freeze
Location: Saskatoon. Saskatchewan.
Gender: Male
| | | Re: Out of curiosity...
<Reply # 3 on 4/18/2012 2:56 AM >
| | | | Okay, I live near the fringes of my particular 'hood, which is right on the fringes of the city, so would there be any open drains leading in? And any drains large enough to squeeze through? Would these be likely? I'm a little new to drains, so I want to learn a bit more about them while it's still chilly up here, before things warm up more.
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Steed
Location: Edmonton/Seoul
Gender: Male
Your Friendly Neighbourhood Race Traitor
| | | Re: Out of curiosity...
<Reply # 4 on 4/18/2012 3:19 AM >
| | | | Well, I guess you are in Saskatchewan, so maybe it's too flat, but generally if you can find any creeks or rivers, there are bound to be some openings along them.
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musket boy
Location: Maui
Gender: Male
It smells like your grandpa and your feet stick to the floor
| |  | | Re: Out of curiosity...
<Reply # 5 on 4/18/2012 3:38 AM >
| | | | try using google earth or bing maps, scan the river banks and drainage ditches for outfalls. finding a large one usually means there's a large tunnel connected to it. opening manholes can be hit or miss, in most cases they just lead to tight ~12 inch sewer pipes.
uering |
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Tastee-Freeze
Location: Saskatoon. Saskatchewan.
Gender: Male
| | | Re: Out of curiosity...
<Reply # 6 on 4/18/2012 4:01 AM >
| | | | Well, we do have a large river that cuts right through the heart of the city, it pretty much seperates the economic district (i.e: downtown) from most residential areas. Would it be best to find the big pipes on the buisness side of the river? Flooding can be a problem on the pearled, so it would make sense for there to be great big storm drains leading to the river. This is what I'm looking for ideally.
Entry to the rooftop playground is free, if you look up enough to know it's there.
-Dsankt on 'The Crane Style' |
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musket boy
Location: Maui
Gender: Male
It smells like your grandpa and your feet stick to the floor
| | | | Re: Out of curiosity...
<Reply # 7 on 4/18/2012 4:14 AM >
| | | | it didn't take me long to find a few promising looking outfalls on Bing maps along the river. since storm drains are usually associated with roads they're outfalls are normally located near the intersections of major roads and rivers. it doesn't necessarily matter whether or not they are in residential or industrial areas but typically the more expensive or crowded the real estate is in a particular area the more extensive the storm drain systems will be
uering |
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micro
Gender: Male
Slowly I turned
| | Re: Out of curiosity...
<Reply # 8 on 4/18/2012 4:21 AM >
| | | | Creeks and outfalls are your best bet at this point. Manholes can come later when you have a better sense of how your system works and know what you might be getting into.
For now you'll want to stick to storm drains which can most often be entered via an outfall. Look to areas of your city that have separate systems for stormwater and sanitary waste. Documents from your city like the one below will help give you an idea of where those areas are.
http://www.gov.mb....o-manage-study.pdf
Also, different lids require different tools and what's needed in one city might not be the case in Saskatoon.
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Steed
Location: Edmonton/Seoul
Gender: Male
Your Friendly Neighbourhood Race Traitor
| | | Re: Out of curiosity...
<Reply # 9 on 4/18/2012 4:54 AM >
| | | | Posted by Tastee-Freeze
Well, we do have a large river that cuts right through the heart of the city, it pretty much seperates the economic district (i.e: downtown) from most residential areas. Would it be best to find the big pipes on the buisness side of the river? Flooding can be a problem on the pearled, so it would make sense for there to be great big storm drains leading to the river. This is what I'm looking for ideally.
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Sounds like you have a good idea where to look. Yes, ravines are definitely good, and I'd suggest looking in every corner, the more remote the better.
There are many ways to go out searching for an outfall -- hiking, canoeing, Google Earth, etc -- and all of them are fun.
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Tastee-Freeze
Location: Saskatoon. Saskatchewan.
Gender: Male
| | | Re: Out of curiosity...
<Reply # 10 on 4/18/2012 4:54 AM >
| | | | Posted by musket boy
it didn't take me long to find a few promising looking outfalls on Bing maps along the river. since storm drains are usually associated with roads they're outfalls are normally located near the intersections of major roads and rivers. it doesn't necessarily matter whether or not they are in residential or industrial areas but typically the more expensive or crowded the real estate is in a particular area the more extensive the storm drain systems will be
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You're going to have to tell me which intersections, I have no idea what to look for. Do the tunnels just continue on in a straight line after the road has turned and just head straight for the river? Should I bring a pair of waders? I really don't know for this one. Need some pointers.
Also, I forgot to say this earlier: The lids only weight about 90 pounds? Wow. Google does occasionally give out misinformation.
Entry to the rooftop playground is free, if you look up enough to know it's there.
-Dsankt on 'The Crane Style' |
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Steed
Location: Edmonton/Seoul
Gender: Male
Your Friendly Neighbourhood Race Traitor
| | | Re: Out of curiosity...
<Reply # 11 on 4/18/2012 5:11 AM >
| | | | Posted by Tastee-Freeze
You're going to have to tell me which intersections, I have no idea what to look for. Do the tunnels just continue on in a straight line after the road has turned and just head straight for the river? Should I bring a pair of waders? I really don't know for this one. Need some pointers.
Also, I forgot to say this earlier: The lids only weight about 90 pounds? Wow. Google does occasionally give out misinformation.
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With all due respect, you can't expect others to do all your work. We aren't there; there are some questions you will have to answer on your own. Trust me, it makes for a far more rewarding experience.
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musket boy
Location: Maui
Gender: Male
It smells like your grandpa and your feet stick to the floor
| | | | Re: Out of curiosity...
<Reply # 12 on 4/18/2012 5:26 AM >
| | | | Posted by Steed
With all due respect, you can't expect others to do all your work. We aren't there; there are some questions you will have to answer on your own. Trust me, it makes for a far more rewarding experience.
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exactly, just go on google earth or some other aerial imagery site and zoom way in on the river bank, start at one end of town and work your way to the other. outfalls are easy enough to to see.
here's one that took me all of 10 seconds to find
http://www.bing.co...&sty=b&form=LMLTCC
uering |
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Tastee-Freeze
Location: Saskatoon. Saskatchewan.
Gender: Male
| | | Re: Out of curiosity...
<Reply # 13 on 4/18/2012 5:49 AM >
| | | | Okay, thanks for that one, I just wSnt entirely certain what to look for, since I don't exactly have the riverbank memorized. But yeah, now I know what to look for, I did a bit of searching and bingo, I found a few right along the shore. Cake. Anyways, back to an earlier question as to gear... A flashlight is a given, but what else? Some way of recording my turns? A mask? Air tank? I think we have a single tunnel system, so I dunno. I'd probably bring a mask or two just in case.
Entry to the rooftop playground is free, if you look up enough to know it's there.
-Dsankt on 'The Crane Style' |
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Knuckle Up
Location: Behind the Zion Curtain, Utah
Gender: Male
| | Re: Out of curiosity...
<Reply # 14 on 4/18/2012 6:21 AM >
| | | | Or you can just buy a puller for around $20-30
Here's a link to the image:
http://www.google....T9qfNqGgiQL62MzNAw
I pull manhole covers by myself for work all the time. They aren't that heavy and they're easy enough to kick back into place once you have it lined back up in the hole. Hope that helps.
[last edit 4/18/2012 6:25 AM by Knuckle Up - edited 1 times]
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musket boy
Location: Maui
Gender: Male
It smells like your grandpa and your feet stick to the floor
| | | | Re: Out of curiosity...
<Reply # 15 on 4/18/2012 6:39 AM >
| | | | Posted by Tastee-Freeze
Okay, thanks for that one, I just wSnt entirely certain what to look for, since I don't exactly have the riverbank memorized. But yeah, now I know what to look for, I did a bit of searching and bingo, I found a few right along the shore. Cake. Anyways, back to an earlier question as to gear... A flashlight is a given, but what else? Some way of recording my turns? A mask? Air tank? I think we have a single tunnel system, so I dunno. I'd probably bring a mask or two just in case.
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all you need is a flash light
uering |
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Tastee-Freeze
Location: Saskatoon. Saskatchewan.
Gender: Male
| | | Re: Out of curiosity...
<Reply # 17 on 4/18/2012 10:24 PM >
| | | | Haha Suchund, good idea, but not too practical, probably, since I would have to do it fast. As for the hook, I actually own a fire poker that looks almost exactly like that. Heavy wrought iron too, so it's pretty durable. Flashlighs won't be a problem, since I have one of these:
http://i3.squidooc...uty_flashlight.jpg
Which are damn near indestructible. The one I have is made for geologists working underground and is even designed to be submerged in water if need be. So all that is good, I think I've even found a few outfalls already, just looking around, thanks guys, this should be fun to head down there.
Entry to the rooftop playground is free, if you look up enough to know it's there.
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Cor726
Location: Saskatchewan
| | | Re: Out of curiosity...
<Reply # 19 on 4/18/2012 10:44 PM >
| | | | We don't drain but from what I understand draining isn't all that rewarding in this province.
www.saskurbex.com
www.blog.saskurbex.com |
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