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UER Forum > Archived UE Main > Whoa, it looks like the panoramic photographer for Manfrotto has a UE streak in him! (Viewed 571 times)
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Whoa, it looks like the panoramic photographer for Manfrotto has a UE streak in him!
< on 9/12/2004 11:04 PM >
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I was just researching some info on panoramic heads for my tripod, as I've been obsessed with panoramas, lately, when I came upon this:

http://www.manfrotto.com/303SPH/main.php?cnt=examples#sph

It's a gallery that's supposed to show the possibilities that a panoramic tripod head can give you... but it looks to me like the guy is a hardcore UE'r ;)

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Re: Whoa, it looks like the panoramic photographer for Manfrotto has a UE streak in him!
<Reply # 1 on 9/12/2004 11:25 PM >
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Really Cool! thanks for sharing...I looked at them over and over...slotman

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Re: Whoa, it looks like the panoramic photographer for Manfrotto has a UE streak in him!
<Reply # 2 on 9/12/2004 11:40 PM >
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hey! Hannes is one of my friend in Germany, we went UEing together in Berlin, good times, cool guy.

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Re: Whoa, it looks like the panoramic photographer for Manfrotto has a UE streak in him!
<Reply # 3 on 9/13/2004 12:09 AM >
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those are really awesome. thanks for the link.

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Re: Whoa, it looks like the panoramic photographer for Manfrotto has a UE streak in him!
<Reply # 4 on 9/13/2004 1:10 AM >
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those are really unbelievable, i always wanted to learn how to do that.

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Re: Whoa, it looks like the panoramic photographer for Manfrotto has a UE streak in him!
<Reply # 5 on 9/13/2004 1:13 AM >
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I think you just need the tripod and a really wide lens.

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Re: Whoa, it looks like the panoramic photographer for Manfrotto has a UE streak in him!
<Reply # 6 on 9/13/2004 1:36 AM >
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Posted by sympathy in chaos
I think you just need the tripod and a really wide lens.


Not exactly.

The panoramic images shown on that page were shot with a normal(ish) focal length lens and a special tripod head that allows the photographer to pan and tilt the camera so that the nodal point of the lens remains stationary. In other words, the edges of each picture are shot to overlap and because of the statioary nodal point, they will fit together perfectly (without perspective and parralax problems).

I've played with this using a normal tripod head before. The pan is pretty close to being right for a normal lens, but obviously the tilt axis is FAR below the nodal point of the lens. As long as the subject is far away, this doesn't seem to be a huge problem, although it was noticeable when I was stitching the images. I was very careful where I put seams to try and minimize the appearances of these errors. The building came out very well, but you can see that there are some very obvious effects in the interior (loft) pano.

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Re: Whoa, it looks like the panoramic photographer for Manfrotto has a UE streak in him!
<Reply # 7 on 9/13/2004 1:55 AM >
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I'm sorry, I wasn't clear. by "the tripod" I meant a paranomic tripod that attaches to the camera at the nodal point like Feztaa mentioned.

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Re: Whoa, it looks like the panoramic photographer for Manfrotto has a UE streak in him!
<Reply # 8 on 9/13/2004 2:22 AM >
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You were, however, clear, about the wide-angle lens and MacGyver was clear in response about a normal lens being better. A nice 50mm lens on a 35mm camera would probably be ideal. One needs to take more pictures, but they will be less distorted.

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Re: Whoa, it looks like the panoramic photographer for Manfrotto has a UE streak in him!
<Reply # 9 on 9/14/2004 2:21 AM >
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Yeah, if you're not using the proper panoramic tripod head that keeps the nodal point stationary, then you will get parallax errors -- the closer your subject, the worse it will be. If you were sitting on top of a mountain on a bright, sunny day, you could do a full 360 degree panorama without a tripod, really. The parallax will be unnoticable at those distances. But if you're in a really small room, you will need the panoramic tripod head, otherwise you are wasting your time. In some of those panoramas on that page, the photographer was standing right next to a door frame or something. Definite proof that he used a panoramic head ;)

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Re: Whoa, it looks like the panoramic photographer for Manfrotto has a UE streak in him!
<Reply # 10 on 9/14/2004 8:24 PM >
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Anyone know anything about that "GDR Bunker" seems pretty interesting?

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Re: Whoa, it looks like the panoramic photographer for Manfrotto has a UE streak in him!
<Reply # 11 on 9/14/2004 10:56 PM >
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Fascinatin' link....thanks.


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Re: Whoa, it looks like the panoramic photographer for Manfrotto has a UE streak in him!
<Reply # 12 on 9/14/2004 11:19 PM >
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I saw this funky paranomic camera today, it has a motor that moves a lens with a small lit. It's sorta like a flatbed scanner. Quite cool, I wonder what one used on ebay is.



I don't think it works for 360 degree work.

[edit] I just realized that this thread might fit better in the photoggraphy forum.
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Re: Whoa, it looks like the panoramic photographer for Manfrotto has a UE streak in him!
<Reply # 13 on 9/14/2004 11:24 PM >
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I recall seeing a motorised panoramic camera someone had made entirely out of technical lego!!!

Aside from the camera of course....it was very cool!

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Re: Whoa, it looks like the panoramic photographer for Manfrotto has a UE streak in him!
<Reply # 14 on 9/14/2004 11:34 PM >
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that is amazing...so i guess thats how the other panpramas worked then MacGyver. so any camera will do as long as you have that special tripod then???
but it does seem to me that this as well as the other pictures use a special program to arrange and view them. does anyone know about that?

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Re: Whoa, it looks like the panoramic photographer for Manfrotto has a UE streak in him!
<Reply # 15 on 9/14/2004 11:36 PM >
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Lego panohead > http://www.philohome.com/legophoto.htm

For stitching I use Livepicture Photovista... which is pretty good.

For stitching fisheye shots, I use Easypano.

and for displaying both I use ptviewr from Helmut Dersche.
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Re: Whoa, it looks like the panoramic photographer for Manfrotto has a UE streak in him!
<Reply # 16 on 9/15/2004 12:08 AM >
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These panoramic images are impressive in that they appear to have been shot as a single frame rather than a series of photos. Note how there are not people cut off by seams between photos or other weird things. I have seen cameras that can do this using a setup that reminded me of a parabolic mirror mounted beneath the lens of a camera pointed straight down. Everything but a circle around the tripod and around the sky directly above the camera is captured.

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Re: Whoa, it looks like the panoramic photographer for Manfrotto has a UE streak in him!
<Reply # 17 on 9/15/2004 1:36 AM >
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Posted by curious cat
but it does seem to me that this as well as the other pictures use a special program to arrange and view them. does anyone know about that?


If you're asking about making panoramas in general (or if anyone else reading this is interested) there is a panoramic thread going on in the Photography forum right now: http://www.uer.ca/forum_showthread.asp?fid=1&threadid=12648

If you're asking specifically about the extremely awesome 360-up-into-the-sky-and-down-to-the-ground panoramas... the answer is, "I wish I knew." Servo posted a link to a program called PTGUI that, at first glance, looked like it might be able to do the effect above, but I don't know for certain because I couldn't figure the damn thing out. I need to download the free trial and see if it becomes clearer.

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Re: Whoa, it looks like the panoramic photographer for Manfrotto has a UE streak in him!
<Reply # 18 on 9/15/2004 8:03 AM >
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Siebe Swart makes panoramic photos of the Netherlands, especially of building projects. What he does is make photos of a certain site, then the next year make a photo of the exact same location, but now with a new highway or railroad in place.

Not shown on the site, but He uses a special camera which revolves around it's (vertical) axis (the whole camera) and uses about 10-20 cm of 36 mm film per shot.



In the image above can be seen that the head moves left to right, as the train (moving right to left) is compressed. I thought there also was a shot showing 2 cars, one heavily compressed and one stretched, as they were moving opposite directions, but I couldn't find it on the site.

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Re: Whoa, it looks like the panoramic photographer for Manfrotto has a UE streak in him!
<Reply # 19 on 9/15/2004 9:12 AM >
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Posted by curious cat
so any camera will do as long as you have that special tripod then???


Yeah, pretty much. The special tripod eliminates the parallax error that you would otherwise get. If you don't know what parallax error is, hold your hand out at arm's length, stick up your finger, and focus both your eyes on your one finger. all the stuff behind your finger (the wall, whatever) will split into two. That's parallax error, and it's good for humans because it's how we percieve depth, but it's bad for cameras because it makes stitching together multiple photos more difficult (things in the background won't line up properly with things in the foreground).

but it does seem to me that this as well as the other pictures use a special program to arrange and view them.


Yeah, you still need a special program to merge the photos, even if you're using the special tripod, because you'll have lens distortion and vignetting effects that you need to get rid of. I've stitched panoramas together by hand with photoshop, and it's not very fun, so those special programs are nice.

does anyone know about that?


Yeah, I might know a thing or two about it. You could also read the instructions right from Manfrotto's own website.

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