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UER Forum > Archived UE Tutorials, Lessons, and Useful Info > What would you have done? (Viewed 985 times) Poll Question: What would you do? Total Votes: 82 1. leave cover open with a glow stick 4 4.88 % 2. leave cover open without a glow stick 3 3.66 % 3. find another enterance 6 7.32 % 4. leave somebody on top 11 13.41 % 5. close cover 50 60.98 % 6. other 8 9.76 % Factor VIII  Location: tu5t1n Gender: Male The Legacy  |  |  What would you have done? < on 9/23/2005 3:32 AM >   So last weekend me and a few friends go draining, we get to the manhole cover that we are going to pop open (in the middle of a dirt path) it was like 9 at night. So we open it up, send one person down there, and then we all proceed to go down, just as I was about to descend, I thought of something! We were going to leave the manhole cover open that way we could take an easer exit, compared to the emergency plan (an outfall) I didnt like the idea of this, what if somebody fell in and died? Remember that it was 9 at night, and pitch black. So all of us went back up to the surface and thought about that to do. We had several options - Pull the cover over, and take the emergency exit out. - leave a green glow stick in front of it, but this rases the chances of being discovered -leave the cover open without a glow stick - keep somebody outside to make sure nobody falls in. In the end, we left somebody on top, and he hid by some trees close by. So I'm wondering, what would you have done? use the boost to get through Pravus  Location: Chicago Area Gender: Male Now the two key words for tonight - "caution" and "flammable"...  |  |  |  Re: What would you have done? <Reply # 1 on 9/23/2005 3:38 AM >   Now I know they can be heavy, but wouldn't it be possible to remove it from inside? I wouldn't leave it off unattended in any regards, you don't fully want to alert people you are down there (at least I wouldn't think) I would more then likely close it and take the other way out if it was too heavy to open from below Live to Serve, Serve to Live.. Random  Location: Richmond, Virginia Gender: Male Partially Retired  |  |  Re: What would you have done? <Reply # 2 on 9/23/2005 4:00 AM >   I'd close it. We always do and never have trouble getting them open. If you think you can't find it from underneath, leave yourself some kind of mark at the bottom. rostit  Location: South Eastern PA Gender: Male Imma herpin ma derp like YEAHH!!  |  Re: What would you have done? <Reply # 3 on 9/24/2005 6:31 AM >   Close it and leave a glowstick down inside the tunnel right at the entrance to the climb out. Leave the stick so its visible form inside but not directly underneath the manhole. That way when you are heading back, the glowstick notifies you that you are at the correct manhole for egress. Lynx  Location: North York Gender: Male :do not cry out or hit the alarm  |  Re: What would you have done? <Reply # 4 on 9/24/2005 7:18 AM >   I think the chances of someone walking by who knows enough about manholes and who shouldn't be inside them would be fairly slim. I dunno, but from the sounds of it your manhole wasn't in a very trafficked area, so I'd say leave the cover open and the glowstick to make sure people don't fall in. even better is if you could get/make a semi-official looking sign to cover the open manhole with for such entrances. the less trafficked ones I mean. where the chances of an official coming by it are unlikely. this is assuming the manhole was one of those too heavy to open from underneath. I have no idea really, I've not done any drains, but I did work for a municipality last summer, not on public works, but I knew all the public works field guys, and I know they didn't like to visit their daily worksites after their shifts were over unless there was some kind of an emergency. Turd Furgusen  Location: Charleston, WV Gender: Male I think marijuana is just nature's way of saying high!  |  |  |  Re: What would you have done? <Reply # 5 on 9/24/2005 4:49 PM >   What the fuck was that guy up top supposed to say if the cops came? Close that shit! Everyone has a dark side, mines just a little more illuminated. AgentNox  Location: Calgary, Alberta, Canada Gender: Female I love the smell of asbestos in the morning!  |  |  |  Re: What would you have done? <Reply # 6 on 9/24/2005 5:51 PM >   I'm not a big girl (5'8", 115 lbs) and I can pop a manhole from inside a drain. Just put your shoulder up against it and push up with your legs, it's surprisingly easy. "If you don't have bits of gear dangling from you, then you're not really adventuring." Noxography || Flickr Stream Mister Sable  Location: Palliser City Gender: Male The Man with the Hat (the other man)  |  |  Re: What would you have done? <Reply # 7 on 9/24/2005 6:09 PM >   The UEA guys have made a reinforeced plywood manhole cover they use so no one falls in. That's a good idea, but the real ones're easier to push open than to lift anyway. Cloak and dagger, man, cloak and dagger. Mister Sable  Location: Palliser City Gender: Male The Man with the Hat (the other man)  |  |  Re: What would you have done? <Reply # 8 on 9/24/2005 6:14 PM >   one day I'll spell check my posts... Cloak and dagger, man, cloak and dagger. this_guy  Location: Chicago suburbs Gender: Male  |  |  Re: What would you have done? <Reply # 9 on 9/24/2005 7:46 PM >   If it's a 3ft. diameter cover, it might be best to have someone on the outside to help remove and replace it, but there's really no excuse not to replace a 2ft. diameter cover behind you. I recommend a hat and, depending on your technique, safety glasses to remove the cover from the inside. Popping a cover from the inside often knocks dirt and rust loose. "Every sound shall end in silence, but the silence never dies." - from Samuel Miller Hagemen, found written on the wall of an abandoned building Scaggs  Gender: Male  |  Re: What would you have done? <Reply # 10 on 9/24/2005 9:01 PM >   Close that shit! If you can lift it up from above, you can definitely pop it from below. Dokk  Location: Lewisville, Texas Gender: Male  |  |  Re: What would you have done? <Reply # 11 on 9/25/2005 11:42 AM >   Posted by rostit Close it and leave a glowstick down inside the tunnel right at the entrance to the climb out. Leave the stick so its visible form inside but not directly underneath the manhole. That way when you are heading back, the glowstick notifies you that you are at the correct manhole for egress. This is the solution that immediately came to mind when I read the first post. I have to go along with it. There are mini-glow sticks that "burn" for a few hours at least and that should be enough time to check things out and get back. Just tape it to the underneath side of the cover. Not visible from the outside yet very recognizable from your vantage point. There are also little red flashers available that would work nicely. The are made for hikers and bicyclists for nighttime visibility and have a clip on the back. I found them at an auto parts store and they also have a little magnet on the back too. Turn it on, snap it in place and you have a blinking red light down there to mark your exit. Also, being an led blinker, mine lasted for about 6 days before the battery finally failed. Dokk "If I'm gonna get blamed for it, I might as well do it!" Factor VIII  Location: tu5t1n Gender: Male The Legacy  |  |  Re: What would you have done? <Reply # 12 on 9/25/2005 6:56 PM >   I never have really tried popping one from below, they always seem too heavy to attempt but I'm going out this friday, so I'm gonna try it. I like the plywood idea, but the problem with that is the manholes are often miles away, so its not exactly easy to carry a plywood board that distance, I think on wednesday me and my crew will go to low traffic manhole and practice popping the cover off. Thanks for all the replies. use the boost to get through Thorbrandr  Gender: Male  |  |  Re: What would you have done? <Reply # 13 on 9/25/2005 8:03 PM >   Get some of the caution tape from where it is that you get the yellow caution tape and tape an X over the hole. My dad is in S&R so I have no problem getting it, I don't know if they just have it at hardware stores though. Anyways, I'd think that a person would be able to see an open manhole with the caution tape over it, the stuff shows up pretty decently at night. That way they might just assume that some punk kid took the drain off and threw it in. The city taped it off instead of covering it right away... Works in my mind. jude s.  Location: Calgary/Ottawa Gender: Female  |  |  Re: What would you have done? <Reply # 14 on 9/26/2005 7:35 AM >   It seems by the design of most manhole covers that it would be much easier to open them from underneath, so even if you have had some trouble with them being heavy above, it could be a snap to do them from below. And by the design of them, I mean that most I have dealt with have had a tapered rim on them to keep them from flying up from having auto traffic run over them constantly. I'm sure drainage etc other infrastructure could have different make ups, though. I'd say cover it. I agree with what 'that_guy' said about the diameter of the cover coming into play. So it's a choice you have to make once you know the entrance you're using. I'm just repeating what everyone else has mentioned at this point, but I would just like to say that leaving a person on the surface is not a good idea. I say that because...well, it would suck to be that person. You'd be making a big sacrifice for the crew, mainly missing out on all the fun, and not knowing the location/status of everyone, and yeah, what would you say if officials show up? I'd hate to not have someone there to back me up, and also equally hate having to go off with some cops while my crew is off somewhere else. obxprnstar  Location: Eastern North Catolina Gender: Male On zombie patrol  |  |  |  Re: What would you have done? <Reply # 15 on 10/1/2005 11:45 PM >   No way would I leave the cover off, not only do you have to worry about somebody falling in, getting hurt, etc. You also have to worry about somebody catching you or even worse, replacing the cover and your getting lost. I think putting somebody on the outside is one idea, but another is to replace the cover and then tape or otherwise attach a glowstick to the wall or underside of the manhole cover, that way you know the one you want to use to get out. 9-11-01 WILL you forget? junkyard  Location: LaCrosse, WI Gender: Male Strategic Beer Command where the metal hits the meat.  |  |  Re: What would you have done? <Reply # 16 on 10/2/2005 1:33 AM >   Don't even open that manhole! If you can't get them from below, you don't belong down there. Mr. Brown could open that thing if there was a ham sandwich on the other side. I drink gasoline for breakfeast and beer for dinner! Any problem can be licked with a case of beer and a few sticks of dynamite. Strategic Beer Command ruling the desert since 1995 http://www.strategic-beer-command.com Hazmat_USMC  Location: Glendale, AZ Gender: Male 9-11-2001 Never forgive, never forget.  |  Re: What would you have done? <Reply # 17 on 10/4/2005 5:14 AM >   I would close it. For one, so noone suspects anything is going on, and secondly as a precautionary measure to prevent any injury or accident. This is exactly what I would do... - Close the cover, mark it with a chemlite from the inside, so you know which one to come back to. - Have the proper tools or resources needed to reopen the cover, i.e. pry bar, step stool, etc. - Always havve a backup plan to get out. Even with having someone on the outside, what good would they do? Are they going to stop someone from checking it out, therefore giving away something is going on? How would they get in contact with you if they needed to? If I were to leave someone on the outside... I would establish contact with them once I reached the closed manhole cover via radio or whatever else. They could use (if possible) traffic barricades to section off the manhole, creating a little less suspicion in case anyone sees you and have them assist in reopening it. No better friend, no worse enemy. UER Forum > Archived UE Tutorials, Lessons, and Useful Info > What would you have done? (Viewed 985 times) All content and images copyright © 2002-2024 UER.CA and respective creators. Graphical Design by Crossfire. To contact webmaster, or click to email with problems or other questions about this site: UER CONTACT View Terms of Service | View Privacy Policy | Server colocation provided by Beanfield This page was generated for you in 140 milliseconds. Since June 23, 2002, a total of 741353008 pages have been generated.