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 fedge
    
Location: Gaud Corners, Ontario, Canada
Gender: Male
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 |  |  | Whitby Psych patient still at large
< on 10/23/2005 12:01 AM >
|  | | | Police are appealing to the public for assistance in locating a Whitby Psych patient who's been at large since Thursday evening (the 20th).
James Robert Kellman, 27, was ordered held at Whitby Psych after being found by the courts not criminally responsible for a crime. He has a history of violence and Durham Regional Police advise the public to stay well away from the dude.
He left the hospital around 7:40 pm Wednesday and failed to return, police said. "We thought a criminally insane patient would just come back on his own if we lt him out", an un-named person said.
Mr. Kellman is a large black man, 6-foot-2 and 225 pounds with black hair, a moustache and brown eyes. When last seen he was wearing blue jogging pants and a blue velour jacket.
"Should we have kept him in his room?", the un-named person asked, "I mean, he was only a violent insane guy after all".
Anyone who sees this man or knows his locations is asked to call 911 or Durham Regional Police at 905 579-1520, extension 1847. Urban explorers near the Whitby Psych are advised to watch the hell out!
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The Dude!
 
Location: Your local abandoned buiding!
Gender: Male
| |  | | Re: Whitby Psych patient still at large
<Reply # 1 on 10/23/2005 12:08 AM >
| | | | This cracks me up and me makes me angry at the same time. What was the guy thinking, we'll just let this guy walk out. Hopefully he'll come back, if not, oh well. I couldn't help but laugh when I read this. But to think there's people controlling the criminally insane in our country that think like that. They'll all be out by next week. But oh well I guess.
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Agent Skelly
   
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Location: Oregon Territory
Gender: Male
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| |  | | | Re: Whitby Psych patient still at large
<Reply # 2 on 10/23/2005 12:20 PM >
| | | | I got my eye out for him while I am still in the GTA...
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HellzBlaze
Location: New Brunswick, Canada
Gender: Female
Inventory management is now My Plaything
| | Re: Whitby Psych patient still at large
<Reply # 3 on 10/23/2005 11:38 PM >
| | | | okay at this point I am glad that I am not in the durham region any more... mind you that doesn't mean that this guy will STAY in the durham region... How stupid is it to let ANY psych patient run around without at least an escort or at least some way to track him!! Sheeesh!
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rainman8889
Location: H.T.S.F.C. Time to gain and a time to lose.
Bye for now.
| | Re: Whitby Psych patient still at large
<Reply # 4 on 10/24/2005 12:52 AM >
| | | | How times have changed. When I worked there, we did not have any patients that were considered 'criminally insane '. The patients were people who were unable to care for themselves due to mental illnesses or were being treated for nervous breakdowns etc. The criminally insane patients were sent to Penetanguishine.
Aside from medication, to keep discipline we had a privilege system where privileges were granted according to how well the patient could be trusted.
Grounds Privilege: allowed out of the various wards but had to remain on the grounds.
Up Town Privilege: Can leave grounds but had to be back before sunset.
These privileges which can take a long time to earn were immediately revoked if the patient caused problems. May sound harsh but it worked. A hell of a lot better than letting someone out who is criminally insane.
[last edit 10/24/2005 12:53 AM by rainman8889 - edited 1 times]
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oldtimer
Location: Toronto
Gender: Male
| | Re: Whitby Psych patient still at large
<Reply # 5 on 10/24/2005 1:07 AM >
| | | | Is that story real or made up? Link please. I thought Whitby Psych is all but demolished and über-explored by UERs.
Blue jogging pants and blue velour jacket? Don't they give 'em orange day-glo clothes so they stand out?
If people like this are not criminally responsible for a crime and at the same time have a history of violence, doesn't that clue in some of these lawyers? This dude is a multiple offender. I guess he's out again to do more crimes.
Wonderful revolving door system we have. What door.
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rainman8889
Location: H.T.S.F.C. Time to gain and a time to lose.
Bye for now.
| | Re: Whitby Psych patient still at large
<Reply # 6 on 10/24/2005 1:22 AM >
| | | | Posted by oldtimer
Is that story real or made up? Link please. I thought Whitby Psych is all but demolished and über-explored by UERs.
Blue jogging pants and blue velour jacket? Don't they give 'em orange day-glo clothes so they stand out?
If people like this are not criminally responsible for a crime and at the same time have a history of violence, doesn't that clue in some of these lawyers? This dude is a multiple offender. I guess he's out again to do more crimes.
Wonderful revolving door system we have. What door.
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The story refers to the new Whitby Psych hospital that was built to the south of the old site. The old site was shut down after the new hospital opened.
Even when I worked there the patients were dressed in regular street clothing to encourage their treatment. The idea was that if they were not dressed to stand out in a crowd, they would be more encouraged to act like the rest of the crowd.
What do the lawyers care? With the tons of cash they have, they can afford state of the art security and can easily have their families protected unlike us common peasants.
And yes, "Wonderful revolving door system we have. What door." Gives me a really warm and fuzzy feeling that people with a history of violence are out on the streets with little or no supervision. Considering that I deal with a lot of people with mental illnesses on a daily basis (while wearing a uniform to make me stand out), I feel real great knowing that I may just have a knife stuck in my back without warning which is what happened to one of my co-workers a few years ago. /sarcasm
Seriously, the last 15 years in Ontario have been somewhat screwed up in terms of how to take care of people with mental illnesses. These people have the right to attack innocent people, freeze to death, be victimized by assholes and the list goes on. The sad part is that taking someone who can't take care of themselves and putting them into an institution where they will be cared for properly is considered a gross violation of their rights.
I do seriously believe that the inmates are running the asylum. 
[last edit 10/24/2005 1:23 AM by rainman8889 - edited 1 times]
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oldtimer
Location: Toronto
Gender: Male
| | Re: Whitby Psych patient still at large
<Reply # 7 on 10/24/2005 1:34 AM >
| | | | Thanks for the explanation re Old Whitby vs. new and improved as-seen-on-TV Whitby. Buy one get one free.
You get to wear stand-out uniform so the inmates know who to knife. Wonderful.
Why would the inmates need to blend into regular society when they are supposedly isolated from it - within the confines of the facility (in theory). They are not anywhere near a crowd of normals to be worried about being treated different.
Remember the Simpsons episode where the Simpson family entered a mental hospital and were given buttons that said "Sane"? I need to get me one of those. Wait - I have one - it's the Infiltration logo.
Oh well. There are a lot of things I don't understand about the goings on in mental institutions but I'm sure the more that's explained to me the madder I'd get.
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rainman8889
Location: H.T.S.F.C. Time to gain and a time to lose.
Bye for now.
| | Re: Whitby Psych patient still at large
<Reply # 8 on 10/24/2005 1:58 AM >
| | | | Posted by oldtimer
Thanks for the explanation re Old Whitby vs. new and improved as-seen-on-TV Whitby. Buy one get one free.
You get to wear stand-out uniform so the inmates know who to knife. Wonderful.
Why would the inmates need to blend into regular society when they are supposedly isolated from it - within the confines of the facility (in theory). They are not anywhere near a crowd of normals to be worried about being treated different.
Remember the Simpsons episode where the Simpson family entered a mental hospital and were given buttons that said "Sane"? I need to get me one of those. Wait - I have one - it's the Infiltration logo.
Oh well. There are a lot of things I don't understand about the goings on in mental institutions but I'm sure the more that's explained to me the madder I'd get.
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You're very welcome oldtimer. As for why would the inmates need to blend in, think of their time isolated from regular society as practice for when they are eventually hopefully released into regular society (as the theory goes). And yeah, the time I worked there was one hell of an eye opener for me.
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fedge
Location: Gaud Corners, Ontario, Canada
Gender: Male
you blight up my life™®
| | | Re: Whitby Psych patient still at large
<Reply # 9 on 10/26/2005 2:17 PM >
| | | | The article I posted (and embellished slightly) never seemed to make it to the online version, just the regular print edition of the local paper. Here is more about these mysteriously disappearing patients.
http://www.durhamr...304p-3617204c.html
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mortimer
Location: teronno
| | | Re: Whitby Psych patient still at large
<Reply # 10 on 10/26/2005 6:38 PM >
| | | | I love the communication here.
"I'm quite prepared to meet with the mayor or councillors, or anyone else, to discuss our experiences here and any issues that people are concerned about," he said. (he being WMHC Administrator Ron Ballantyne).
And the mayor's response?
"I don't know what's changed, but we sure need to find out," the mayor said, adding a roundtable discussion among Town staff, police and the public is in the works.
The director of the psych offers to meet with city staff, police, the mayor, councillors, and the public, and the mayor decides to hold a discussion with everyone but the director of the psych. How does this make any sense? The inmates are running the town with the asylum, I guess.
edit to add:
Also at the end of the story, this info:
In July, a man ordered held after being found not criminally responsible for an offence went missing from WMHC, and was returned to the facility last month.
But no mention of what that offence was. Shoplifting? Serial kleptomania? I'm sure they would have mentioned the offence if it was anything serious, like murder/rape/whatever. So why the scare tactics?
[last edit 10/26/2005 6:41 PM by mortimer - edited 1 times]
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Agent Skelly
Web Sheriff
Location: Oregon Territory
Gender: Male
Prenez De L'Avance Avec Chrysler!
| | | | | Re: Whitby Psych patient still at large
<Reply # 11 on 10/26/2005 8:19 PM >
| | | | Me and E-less once caught the Whitby Transit bus from the stop infront of WMHC after we looked at the rubble of WPH.
The people standing out front were uh.....weirdest people I've ever seen....
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TehTwinz0rs
Location: Bowmanville/London, Ontario.
Gender: Female
| | Re: Whitby Psych patient still at large
<Reply # 12 on 10/27/2005 9:14 PM >
| | | | The ones that stand outside are usually the friendly ones.
None of the patients that are allowed to roam the premises and have LOAs/town priviledges "escape".
I've found that the majority of patients who usually escape are those that are being held for criminal charges and are awaiting pending psychiatric evaluations or have been ordered to stay there for a period of time under strict circumstances.
Even when I worked there, there were a couple incidents where a patient had gone missing from the forensic wards.
Either way, if I was ordered to stay at Whitby Mental Health Centre or jail, I'd go to the psych. That place is like a five star hotel compared to ANY holding facility.
And about the clothing issue... Whitby Mental Health Centre is designed for patients to seek treatment and to be re-integrated into the community as "normal" individuals...making them wear a uniform of some sort would only make them more aware of their problem; you are trying to make them feel welcome, as opposed to feeling rejected.
Patients are discharged quite regularly, chances are you've run into at least three of them without even knowing it. A lot of them return for further treatment, however, a lot of them remain outpatients.
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oldtimer
Location: Toronto
Gender: Male
| | Re: Whitby Psych patient still at large
<Reply # 13 on 10/27/2005 10:30 PM >
| | | | From the article:
| "These are not escapes. They are 'elopements'," Mr. Ballantyne said. "The police have referred to them as escapes, and it's this kind of language that inflames and escalates situations unnecessarily. It's a far different scenario -- a far different impression -- left with the public." |
1 entry found for elopement.
Main Entry: escape
Part of Speech: noun
Definition: getaway
Synonyms: abdication, avoidance, AWOL, beat, bolt, break, breaking away, breakout, bypassing, circumvention, decampment, deliverance, departure, desertion, disappearance, dodging, ducking, elopement, elusion, elusiveness, eschewal, evasion, evasiveness, extrication, fadeout, flight, freedom, hegira, lam, leave, liberation, out, outbreak, powder, release, rescue, retreat, runaround, shunning, sidestepping, slip, spring, withdrawal
ref: http://thesaurus.r...search?q=elopement
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CopySix
Location: Barrie, Ontario, Canada
Gender: Male
Agent of the System
| | | Re: Whitby Psych patient still at large
<Reply # 14 on 10/28/2005 12:06 AM >
| | | | Oh my Gawd!
I had no idea! - I just had a nice afternoon tea with Mr. Kellman . . . He seemed like such a nice fellow - with the exception of his odd under-his-breath mutterings and the strange splotches of red ink on his Blue jogging pants and blue velour jacket.
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JayP
Location: Montreal
Gender: Male
| | Re: Whitby Psych patient still at large
<Reply # 15 on 10/30/2005 1:08 AM >
| | | | i was down there on tuesday night with a friend when it happened. we had finished exploring the psyc so we were chilling down by the water on the rocks when the police helicopters light came down on us and a police car drove out of the woods. needless to say we had a few questions to answer but in the end they realised my friend and i both werent: 6"2, 225lbs, or black (description of the inmate), only took them about 20 min of bothering us to figure it out. in the end they said we were trespassing by being on the waterfront walking path, a path i see soccer moms walking thier poodles on regularly. then they said they wouldnt bug us about the trespassing but drove us from the water front to my car and told us to leave right away and not come back. all and all an interesting night. o, i was wondering if anybody knew what the deal is with the pathway on the water behind the new psyc, is it really private property?
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IndianaTeach
Im lovin' those knobs!
| | Re: Whitby Psych patient still at large
<Reply # 16 on 10/30/2005 1:48 AM >
| | | | What a bunch of crap...that waterfront path isnt private property! I hate it when cops take advantage of people like that. I wonder how many other people got away with crimes while the 2 cops interrogated you guys. Im so ashamed of the police sometimes. Where are their priorities? Malvern could use a few more Im sure.
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oldtimer
Location: Toronto
Gender: Male
| | Re: Whitby Psych patient still at large
<Reply # 17 on 10/30/2005 2:32 AM >
| | | | They probably don't know any better regarding the privacy status of the path. They make something up like that and enforce it. They are trained to always maintain the (bullying) upper hand no matter how wrong they are. If you had the information at hand to rebuff their claim, you would likely have been bodily searched, told "are you being a wise guy?", and arrested for resting arrest.
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fedge
Location: Gaud Corners, Ontario, Canada
Gender: Male
you blight up my life™®
| | | Re: Whitby Psych patient still at large
<Reply # 18 on 10/30/2005 9:32 AM >
| | | | Based on my cousin's recent cottage purchase on little northern Ontario lakeside, I'm pretty sure that all the property owner owns is land just up to the typical beach portion of the shore. Once you hit that shore region then it's Crown or municipal land. The WPH nazis cannot have you charged for trespassing where you were, as far as I know.
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fedge
Location: Gaud Corners, Ontario, Canada
Gender: Male
you blight up my life™®
| | | Re: Whitby Psych patient still at large
<Reply # 19 on 12/9/2005 4:55 AM >
| | | | UPDATE!
Whitby escapee facing criminal charges in York
Dec 7, 2005
DURHAM -- An escapee who's been on the lam from the Whitby Mental Health Centre since mid-October is facing several criminal charges in York Region.
The man, who went missing Oct. 18, was arrested after police investigating a stolen vehicle report scoured a Markham neighbourhood with a helicopter and canine teams early Monday morning.
During the investigation, on Bluebell Drive in Markham, police also discovered a garage that had been broken into. A man taken into custody was found to have keys to the stolen Honda in his possession, police said.
James Robert Kellman, 27, is charged with theft-related crimes, as well as two counts of breach of probation. He was being held to face the charges in Newmarket.
Mr. Kellman, who was committed to the Whitby Mental Health Centre after being found not criminally responsible of a criminal offence by the courts, has a history of violence, police said. He has been at large since failing to return to the Whitby hospital while on a pass.
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