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 Pravus
 
Location: Chicago Area
Gender: Male
Now the two key words for tonight - "caution" and "flammable"...
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<Reply # 20 on 11/8/2005 10:03 PM >
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take a dremmel to it and cut a slot into it for a screw driver
Live to Serve, Serve to Live.. |
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Jonsered
   
Location: Back in New Mexico where I belong
Gender: Male
Dressed for a scarecrow ball.........
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<Reply # 21 on 11/8/2005 10:06 PM >
| | | | Yeah Grit, I did. The doors are doubles, with a steel center post between them. Each door lock assembly is thus flush with the steel post on the front and side. My car Slim Jim wouldn't fit behind the door, and I couldn't even get a piece of steel safety wire down through to pull back against the locks. I'm going back tonight to take another long look at the roof, even though its around 70 feet to the shop floor. If I can get in without breaking anything, I'll do it.
Pravus, the slot isn't a bad idea! I have no access to power, but I'll bet I could do the same thing with a triangular diamond file. Hmmmmm..........I'll let you know tomorrow how it worked!
[last edit 11/8/2005 10:11 PM by Jonsered - edited 1 times]
I have changed my personal exploring ethics code. From now on it will be: "Take only aimed shots, leave only hobo corpses." Copper scrappers, meth heads and homeless beware. The Jonsered cometh among you, bringing fear and dread.
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grit1
Location: University Campus - Minneapolis, MN
Gender: Male
Got Shear Line?
| | | Re: Schlage locks
<Reply # 22 on 11/8/2005 10:30 PM >
| | | | Posted by Jonsered
Pravus, the slot isn't a bad idea! I have no access to power, but I'll bet I could do the same thing with a triangular diamond file. Hmmmmm..........I'll let you know tomorrow how it worked!
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I don't know how much money you want to invest in this project, but you could buy a battery powered dremel tool. I have one made by black and decker, with those little cylindrical batteries. It only cost me $30 a couple of years ago.
A small hack saw may be better than a file - finner slot? ~Grit.
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Caveman6666
Location: NY
| | | Re: Schlage locks
<Reply # 23 on 11/9/2005 3:09 AM >
| | | | Vise grips. Two minutes.
Yet another unoriginal generic UE website. GODDAM! |
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grit1
Location: University Campus - Minneapolis, MN
Gender: Male
Got Shear Line?
| | | Re: Schlage locks
<Reply # 24 on 11/9/2005 4:45 AM >
| | | | Posted by Caveman6666
Vise grips. Two minutes.
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Oooo ... good idea - you could impression a key for the locks  . All you need is some schlage blanks of the appropriate section, a pipen file and some vice grips!
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Cowboy Wayne
Location: Evansville, Indiana.
Gender: Male
I'm sorry; I can't hear you over the sound of how awesome I am.
| | Re: Schlage locks
<Reply # 25 on 11/10/2005 4:02 AM >
| | | | Do you think you could just make a bump key for them? I'm not much of a locksmith, but it seems that they're just fancy-schmancy tumbler pin locks.
No, the guy in my av isn't actually me. |
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grit1
Location: University Campus - Minneapolis, MN
Gender: Male
Got Shear Line?
| | | Re: Schlage locks
<Reply # 26 on 11/10/2005 4:34 PM >
| | | | Posted by Cowboy Wayne
Do you think you could just make a bump key for them? I'm not much of a locksmith, but it seems that they're just fancy-schmancy tumbler pin locks.
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You should be able to make a bump key. There's a thread about bumping, with a link to a video how-to, and it's worth a try if you don't want to learn hand-picking for this project. ~Grit.
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Pravus
Location: Chicago Area
Gender: Male
Now the two key words for tonight - "caution" and "flammable"...
| | | | Re: Schlage locks
<Reply # 27 on 11/12/2005 11:57 AM >
| | | | Posted by Jonsered
Pravus, the slot isn't a bad idea! I have no access to power, but I'll bet I could do the same thing with a triangular diamond file. Hmmmmm..........I'll let you know tomorrow how it worked!
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you could get a battery powered one.. but it's gunna be a lil loud and make hella sparks (if you do this at night you'll become a small beacon).. the file is better idea if it's anywhere near houses or anything that has high traffic..
Also I would give the vise-grips a shot first, since it'll be quicker then a file and quieter then a dremmel
[last edit 11/12/2005 11:58 AM by Pravus - edited 1 times]
Live to Serve, Serve to Live.. |
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Robz
| | Re: Schlage locks
<Reply # 28 on 11/13/2005 10:13 PM >
| | | | Posted by grit1
You should be able to make a bump key. There's a thread about bumping, with a link to a video how-to, and it's worth a try if you don't want to learn hand-picking for this project. ~Grit.
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any chance of a link to this thread with the vid?
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Jonsered
Location: Back in New Mexico where I belong
Gender: Male
Dressed for a scarecrow ball.........
| | | | Re: Schlage locks
<Reply # 30 on 11/18/2005 5:21 PM >
| | | | OK< thanks for all the ideas on this one, but its a no go, as it is now occupied. DRAT! Anyway, I'll be a little better prepared the next time I encounter Schlage.
I have changed my personal exploring ethics code. From now on it will be: "Take only aimed shots, leave only hobo corpses." Copper scrappers, meth heads and homeless beware. The Jonsered cometh among you, bringing fear and dread.
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Archer
 
Location: Toronto, ON
Gender: Male
Imperator Sagittario
| |  | Re: Schlage locks
<Reply # 31 on 11/27/2005 11:44 PM >
| | | | Posted by Ishi
Commonly securing janitorial rooms, elevator/escalator rooms, offices, and pretty much any room on the platform except for the rooms described below with Schlage.
Schlage locks are used on some of the little rooms on the Bloor-Danforth line, i.e. some of the double gray doors recessed into the walls at certain stations like Pape, Sherbourne, Broadview, just to name a few. I believe that they house some piping inside those cabinets. They are the same size as the red cabinets you see on the platforms (Those house emergency equipment for firefighting).
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Nope, they're Medeco as well. Most of the cores in the padlocks are Medeco, to boot. The TTC does not skimp on the type of lock they use... if you can find any lock while on the system, it's pretty much guarenteed to be a Medeco unless it's one of the PAX (skeleton looking), square, or ACE keys.
Abandoned UE - http://www.abandonedue.com
"We live in a twilight world... and there are no friends at dusk." |
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tnarduzzi
Location: Nevernever, LD, Canada
Gender: Male
| | Re: Schlage locks
<Reply # 32 on 11/29/2005 1:02 AM >
| | | | Posted by Archer
PAX (skeleton looking)
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Are these the same keys as to the operator cabs on the subway?
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Archer
Location: Toronto, ON
Gender: Male
Imperator Sagittario
| | | Re: Schlage locks
<Reply # 33 on 11/29/2005 4:18 AM >
| | | | Posted by Normz
Are these the same keys as to the operator cabs on the subway?
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No, those are the silver, squarish ones (I don't know their actual name). The PAX keys are the longer, bronze ones.
Abandoned UE - http://www.abandonedue.com
"We live in a twilight world... and there are no friends at dusk." |
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tnarduzzi
Location: Nevernever, LD, Canada
Gender: Male
| | Re: Schlage locks
<Reply # 34 on 11/29/2005 4:42 PM >
| | | | Do you have any further information, links?, about either of these locksets?
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Archer
Location: Toronto, ON
Gender: Male
Imperator Sagittario
| | | Re: Schlage locks
<Reply # 35 on 11/29/2005 5:13 PM >
| | | | Only that all TTC employees have a PAX key, and as such there generally isn't anything interesting behind those doors (lunchrooms and operator washrooms are the normal finds). I have no information about the square(cross) keys for the subway cabs, but I think they're for cab access only.
As for the Medeco's... there are so many variants in use it isn't funny. And there is no such thing as a master Medeco key for the system, regardless of what people might say. Only master keys for the Medeco subsets in use.
To get into Bay Lower and Queen Lower you'd need a B master, fyi.
Abandoned UE - http://www.abandonedue.com
"We live in a twilight world... and there are no friends at dusk." |
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tnarduzzi
Location: Nevernever, LD, Canada
Gender: Male
| | Re: Schlage locks
<Reply # 36 on 11/29/2005 5:25 PM >
| | | | Thanks for the info Archer.
I've heard that these PAX keys are a universal transit operators thing. For instance YRT employees issued PAX keys can use them in the TTCs facilities. Also why issue these keys versus issuing a normal key to access these operators facilities?
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JimBoylan
Location: SouthEast Pennsylvania, U. S. of A.
Gender: Male
| | Re: Schlage locks
<Reply # 37 on 12/30/2005 11:05 PM >
| | | | | Posted by grit1: They're not designed to be removable but there is a tool that exists to do it, I don't remember what it's called or how it works. |
One brand name is "UN-DO-IT". It looks like the screwdriver for tamper-proof screws with 2 cylindrical depressions on the face. It doesn't come with instructions.
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