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 HauntedPA
    
Location: Anywhere and Everywhere
Gender: Female
What do you mean the rum is gone?!
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<Reply # 60 on 12/19/2003 10:05 PM >
|  | | | Posted by Mark
My comment said have a good alibi or a photo geek as in "im just taking architcture. I stated it so you guys would get both sides. I believe that most of this stuff is physically challangeing when you do things like Jester myself and a few others do. I think most things like tunneling going in subways has to be far harder then entering abandonedbuildings hence my statment.
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Sorry to qoute ya to death here as it seems, but I wouldn't judge ease of access by the type of location. Each new one presents it's own challenges and pitfalls.
Case being you may find a drain that has an access by a highway overpass in a city somewhere. Now walking in a city isn't suspicious in the least. Where as you may find an abandoned building on the outskirts, but that building has a police station about a block from it and has a close knit residential community that surrounds it.
The neighborhoood will notice an unfamiliar face much quicker than a city would. Not to mention in a city the police are generally doing something other than looking in drains. Where as a smaller town the cops may not have anything better to do than chase and/or fine kids for going into the abandoned hotel down the road.
Did any of that make sense?
In any event I wouldn't say that any one type of location is harder than another. Well accept for "live sites"...Those present a far different challenge than anything else.
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Mark
  
Very Noble Donor
Location: South Carolina
Gender: Male
What is a lion, king of the savannah, when hes at the south pole?
| | Re: Making a run for it
<Reply # 61 on 12/20/2003 1:11 AM >
| | | | (sighs) my point is be good or be good at it. Obviously we have people here who can only walk doing this. I am just saying the healthier you are the faster you can move gives you a distinct advantage over most people. If your in a subway and a train comes you have to run. If your in a small tunnel inching along you have to have the upper body for it. If your smart lie. If your silent stay that way. My words probably didnt convey what I ment sorry.
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Lord Nat, The Ex-God of Chaos
Location: Maplewood, MN
Gender: Male
| |  | Re: Making a run for it
<Reply # 62 on 1/7/2004 11:42 AM >
| | | | Some one just said some thing to me that really fits this topic.
"Worry about the 'from' when running. The 'to' will take care of itself."
Kind of makes sence no?
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Ben
Noble Donor
Location: Mojave Desert
Gender: Male
| | | Re: Making a run for it
<Reply # 63 on 1/7/2004 3:14 PM >
| | | | No, that's really dumb. The "to" could end up being a blocked off alley, or a room with no exits, or any of the other thousand dead ends in any one site.
Always have an out. You'll need to pay more attention, but you'll be able to get out.
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sami
Location: florida
Gender: Female
| | Re: Making a run for it
<Reply # 64 on 1/15/2004 9:26 AM >
| | | | Posted by Chud
That's an ignorant, inane comment. Some people are physically unable to run, and must find other ways to avoid getting caught.
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Thank you. I have a bad back and relatively severe arthritis. Not to mention I make like Velma without my glasses. I know my limitations - no draining in small drains, no running and no scaling of water towers(darn), etc. That doesn't mean there aren't plenty of places I can UE - carefully. I'll admit, though, I've held back on answering a couple of nice folks on this forum who have inquired if I'd like to go with them when they return to a place of mutual interest (you know who you are if you'd like to reply to this - maybe, please) because I was worried about holding them back - or scaring them to death when they see how old I am (lol).
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Ricotta
Nobler Donor
Location: Houston, TX
Gender: Male
De arimasu~
| | Re: Making a run for it
<Reply # 65 on 1/15/2004 1:18 PM >
|  | | | How old are you?
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Downtown D-Low Brown
Location: The Ill Noize.
Gender: Male
The game is the game.
| | | Re: Making a run for it
<Reply # 66 on 1/15/2004 3:38 PM >
|  | | | Posted by Damien Nightbane
How old are you?
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To answer your question: 49. At least according to her profile, that is.
~D
The greatest trick the devil ever pulled was convincing the world he didn't exist.
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MothMan
Noble Donor
Location: The Gem City
Gender: Male
If you didn't bring back any pictures with you then you obviously weren't there!
| | Re: Making a run for it
<Reply # 67 on 1/15/2004 4:33 PM >
| | | | Posted by sami
I was worried about holding them back - or scaring them to death when they see how old I am (lol).
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No one should be concerned about your age. I mean, it's not like you're 67 and need somebody to man your wheelchair... 
An older person often brings with them a seasoned perspective, and that's a plus in anyone's book.
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Ricotta
Nobler Donor
Location: Houston, TX
Gender: Male
De arimasu~
| | Re: Making a run for it
<Reply # 68 on 1/15/2004 10:59 PM >
| | | | Posted by Down-Low
To answer your question: 49. At least according to her profile, that is.
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Ah yes. I should have checked there first.
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Ricotta
Nobler Donor
Location: Houston, TX
Gender: Male
De arimasu~
| | Re: Making a run for it
<Reply # 69 on 1/15/2004 11:01 PM >
| | | | Posted by MothMan
No one should be concerned about your age. I mean, it's not like you're 67 and need somebody to man your wheelchair...
An older person often brings with them a seasoned perspective, and that's a plus in anyone's book.
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Not to mention that no cop with a shred of descency would harass a group with someone older than 40.
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Sleazy Santa
Location: New York City
I love to break stuff and steal from UE sites
| | |  | Re: Making a run for tit
<Reply # 70 on 2/1/2004 2:42 AM >
| | | | I think It's an even worse Idea to run from ANY oficials that has the right to carry guns OTHER than average police, especially in large cities, Mie encounter was on an AMTRACK bridge, and the Amtrak police would have probably shot us if we'd tried to run, I gather this from how they acted even after we were on the ground and cuffed.. still cursing us and holding guns in our faces.. If they havent made the big police department the seem like they think theyve got somthing to proove.
Never mess with a cop who's got sumthing to proove.
PS with the rent-a-coppers I've encountered(we were cornered) they just told us to get the hell out and never come back... ID helped(so we came back later of course)
Sleazy Santa's in this Hoose-
Moonwalked Back into a Moose-
long story short, by the end we were both covered in blood and urine
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Jesus Jones
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Location: back in Belleville
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1973-2005
| | | Re: Making a run for it
<Reply # 71 on 2/1/2004 2:49 AM >
| | | | God Turn off your cell phones if you carry one while ue'ing. I was at the Rexcan circuts today when some rent-a-cops showed up. I hid in the bushes but my cell went off so I ran like hell. I was alredy half way down the street before I say them get to the spot I was parked.
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WuffyFluff
 
Location: Large Crossing, Colorado
Gender: Male
Time is Not to be Wasted, But Used - WuffyFluff
| | | Re: Making a run for it
<Reply # 72 on 2/3/2004 9:13 PM >
| | | | Posted by HauntedPA
Now walking in a city isn't suspicious in the least. Where as you may find an abandoned building on the outskirts, but that building has a police station about a block from it and has a close knit residential community that surrounds it.
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the only substantial UrbEx sites I can find nearby, that arent broken down old houses that look like they would collapse if a house fly landed on em, are old storefronts or businesses in the towncenter  you will never guess where the county sheriffs office is....just kitty corner to the public squre...with the city cops shop being 2 blocks down the same side street, in the other direction...therefor any fun UrbEx I could possibly do...has mega high security......damn sherrifs oughta be out huntin meth labs..instead of standin around the parking bay drinkin coffee and eating donuts* jelly and cream filled....good quality too ;)*
[Admin. Note: Topic is "Making a run for it". -Ninj]
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clark
Location: Illinois
Gender: Male
| | | | Re: Making a run for it
<Reply # 73 on 2/13/2004 11:59 PM >
| | | | i read most of this thread, but couldn't make it through the last page. i did word search though, so hopefully this is a new contribution.
for my fellow college students: if you go to a state school, your university police are like the rail cops - they look different, they may think different, but they are real-deal officers. can bust your ass, can call all kinds of nasty backup, can haul you off for a long time.
beyond that, everyone's sort of covered the dodgy business that is getting out of trouble when spotted by an authority figure.
when it comes to things like that though, my immediate instinct is to run, and i'm unfortunately an impulsive person. i'm a lifelong runner, i've run marathons, and i have faith that i can get away from almost anyone out there. however, it is stupid. it's a damn good way to get a misdemeanor tresspassing that'll probably get thrown out knocked up to a whole bunch of other shit, depending on how mean the cop is: evasion, obstruction of justice, reckless endangerment, who knows what else. so far, in my experience, i've been lucky. though i've run from real police probably about a dozen times in my life (mostly just from drinking in parks after-hours when i was in high school), only one of them was during a UE type thing. my roommate had climbed an old wooden tower, and the following week we went back to see if we could get inside. the wood door was decievingly sturdy and i guess we made too much noise trying to get in. well, that and it's a block from a police station. a squad pulled up, hit us with the spotlight and we ducked low in the grass and crawled to a nearby warehouse, where we climbed up on the roof and laid flat for about a half hour while 3 other cars circled the area. closest call yet. the area was heavily overgrown, though, and there were plenty of other run-down buildings we probably could have made it into if needed. i'll admit, it's always stupid to run from police. but if you have a good sense of where your strengths lie (ie, i know i can run like a motha) it's more of a personal choice and weighing of risks against what you feel you're capable of. and in my experiences with police, i must just have an ugly mug or something, because when i have run into them and stuck around, no matter how respectful and cooperative and friendly i try to be, i always end up with a fat ticket. i'm clearly better at dashing than i am BSing. for whatever it's worth. :/
EDIT: actually i'm lying. i DID BS my way out once. it was when i was way younger though, 16 or 17. basically i was in a place i shouldn't have been doing something i shouldn't have done and got caught. i ditched my tools in the shrubs, but i was sure the cop saw me throw them. i then proceeded to fabricate this terrible story about how i'd been jogging earlier and lost my watch in the area. it was the most nerve racking 20 minutes while the cop took out his light and helped me search for a nonexistent watch. i was sure he was going to go over, pick up my wrenches and be like "you're an idiot." but i miraculously pulled it off. and out of that experience, i gotta say, i do like running more. if it wasn't dark out i'm sure my body language would have given me away in two seconds.
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Viper
Location: Vancouver, BC Canada
Gender: Male
Trespassing On!
| | | Re: Making a run for it
<Reply # 74 on 2/17/2004 6:03 AM >
| | | | Just some corrections what Ex said earlier about the Canadian Criminal Code. Regarding s.494(1) you must make sure if making a "citizen's arrest" that the person you are arresting is commiting an indictable offence or else that person COULD have you arrested. Crimes such as B&E, theft, mischief, assault, etc can be both indictable and summary crimes. For s.494(2) a security guard can arrest you because he is "authorized by the owner" to protect that property. S.129 says you have the right to refuse to identify yourself to a peace (police) officer, as long as the officer does not believe you are involved in a crime. Wilful obstruction is the concealment or omission to do something that you are legally obliged to do if they ask you to. So if you run a red light on a bike and refuse to identify yourself to an officer, you could be charged. I've taken two criminology courses so far and it's very confusing. There are so many factors involved in codes, from specific words to the interpretation to the intent and so on. The botttom line is that the Criminal Code is sometimes hard to interpret and people could misunderstand it or only read parts of it. Also Canada, its provinces, as well as the U.S. and its states sometimes have different laws. So saying "no that law is not true" when someone lives in another province or country could not apply to them. Use your judgement if you chose to run from a security guard or police, and remember you can't out run a radio.
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13ue
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<Reply # 75 on 3/5/2004 5:26 AM >
| | | | whenever i enter a building to explore i always bring a roll of fishing line, a pocket knife and some neon green post-it papers. So when i get into the building i make trip wires across the room and on each side I post a paper to whatever its tied to, just incase someone does chase me i look for the post-it's and jump....while they trip. But if nobody chases you pick up your garbage!
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BigPoppaMikey
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Location: Milpitas, California
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Don't follow me unless you want to...
| |  |  | | Re: Making a run for it
<Reply # 76 on 3/5/2004 5:52 AM >
| | | | Posted by 13ue
whenever i enter a building to explore i always bring a roll of fishing line, a pocket knife and some neon green post-it papers. So when i get into the building i make trip wires across the room and on each side I post a paper to whatever its tied to, just incase someone does chase me i look for the post-it's and jump....while they trip. But if nobody chases you pick up your garbage!
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For your info, what you just described is called a booby-trap. In many states in the U.S., that is a felony. And if you happen to get an officer to trip over one of those, HE WILL HUNT YOU DOWN. Also, the police will step up their presence in the area and if any other UE'ers are caught later, they may pay for your stupidity. In other words, DON'T DO IT!
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Down State
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| | Re: Making a run for it
<Reply # 77 on 3/5/2004 8:41 AM >
| | | | 13ue I like your style / thinking, of course I grew up on McGyver and Goonies... if a cop did trip over one don't worry about it, if you did not get caught that night and non of your friends / group got caught, the cop can't hunt you down.
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orangeindiana
Noble Donor
Location: Texas
Gender: Male
Meh.
| | Re: Making a run for it
<Reply # 78 on 3/5/2004 8:12 PM >
| | | | Posted by 13ue
whenever i enter a building to explore i always bring a roll of fishing line, a pocket knife and some neon green post-it papers. So when i get into the building i make trip wires across the room and on each side I post a paper to whatever its tied to, just incase someone does chase me i look for the post-it's and jump....while they trip. But if nobody chases you pick up your garbage!
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Are you sure you've actually done this and it's not just an idea you've had?
Either way I'm gonna side with BigPM and say that's a bad idea. If an officer wants to catch you badly enough to go chasing you through a dark, abadoned building, he's not going to be alone and a fishing line isn't going to stop him. Not to mention all of the other problems that BPM outlined.
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Uncle Goose
Location: Ghent, Belgium
Gender: Male
The Goose knows best.
| | | Re: Making a run for it
<Reply # 79 on 3/8/2004 7:20 AM >
| | | | If you trip him he would probably not been knocked out. But he will know somebody is around and go searching. If he's not supsicious than that's an advantage for you because you know you can expect someone.
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