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UER Forum > Archived Canada: Ontario > Canadian Northern Railway (Durham region) (Viewed 452 times)
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Canadian Northern Railway (Durham region)
< on 6/3/2006 3:01 AM >
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While searching out a place to walk my dog i stumbled on some old ruins that looked like a rail line.I researched a little on what i found and posted a few pics in the Durham region private board. The CNor built a line thru this region in the early nineteen hundreds. At the end of world war one and the beginning of the depression the railway went bankrupt. The government bought it up as well as other rail lines and consolidated them as canadian national. Because this line travelled north of the lake and the other lines it became redundant.sometime in the late twenties and early thirties the Oshawa to Port Hope section was removed. I have added the few photos i have taken so far in a link below. There is also a house on solina road that is a former station. since the house is a private and active residence and i personally didnt take the photo i have of the house i decided not to include it. http://ca.pg.photo...k=phop59EB1riISnMY

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Re: Canadian Northern Railway (Durham region)
<Reply # 1 on 6/3/2006 3:10 AM >
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map of the original rail line. Stephens mill or Stephens gulch is where i first noticed the rail line

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[last edit 6/3/2006 3:13 AM by otonabee - edited 2 times]

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Re: Canadian Northern Railway (Durham region)
<Reply # 2 on 6/3/2006 3:53 AM >
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Could that date be 1915 instead of 1919? Hard to tell with those fonts and erosion...

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Re: Canadian Northern Railway (Durham region)
<Reply # 3 on 6/6/2006 1:17 AM >
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Looks like 1919 to me

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Re: Canadian Northern Railway (Durham region)
<Reply # 4 on 6/6/2006 1:25 AM >
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Re: Canadian Northern Railway (Durham region)
<Reply # 5 on 6/6/2006 2:23 AM >
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I'd be interested to see the house you're refering to as the station. I'm gonna have to go looking for a house on Solina Rd that resembles a train station.

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Re: Canadian Northern Railway (Durham region)
<Reply # 6 on 6/6/2006 4:41 PM >
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Posted by otonabee
map of the original rail line. Stephens mill or Stephens gulch is where i first noticed the rail line

62424.jpg (21 kb, 640x476)


In viewing the map, there is still a greenspace through my very own neighborhood in oshawa that was once a railway line (I have been told). It is essentially between Bond and King (the one way sections) bordered by Ritson and Wilson. I have always wondered where that line went and when. Maybe this was part of the whole system?

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Re: Canadian Northern Railway (Durham region)
<Reply # 7 on 6/6/2006 5:47 PM >
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Using google earth i can follow the old rail line to Harmony road. Of course there are no guarantees that what i am viewing is the old rail line at that point. Once it hits Oshawa i imagine the property was gobbled up by developments. It looks like it enters around Beatrice and perhaps Beatrice is part of the old line but that is pure speculation on my part, please dont take that as fact. That would put it a little north of the location you are talking about but anything is possible. East of Oshawa it is much easier for me to follow as it is still remaining as a path in many parts and strung with power lines. Eventually i will walk some of the line when the mosquitos ease up

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Re: Canadian Northern Railway (Durham region)
<Reply # 8 on 9/7/2006 1:21 AM >
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Here is a winter photo of a similar location in Ottawa's east end. The headwalls are identical to the ones in your pix. This railbed is part of the Canadian Northern line between Ottawa and Montreal which was built in 1908 and abandoned in 1939. Both your bridge and this one were on the Toronto-Montreal mainline. The only sections left include the VIA line from Smiths Falls to Ottawa, and the commuter line between Deux Montagnes and Montreal via the Mount Royal Tunnel (also built by the Canadian Northern). In Ottawa's west end are the foundations of a 15 stall roundhouse and turntable built in 1912 and abandoned in 1921!

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Posted by otonabee
While searching out a place to walk my dog i stumbled on some old ruins that looked like a rail line.I researched a little on what i found and posted a few pics in the Durham region private board. The CNor built a line thru this region in the early nineteen hundreds. At the end of world war one and the beginning of the depression the railway went bankrupt. The government bought it up as well as other rail lines and consolidated them as canadian national. Because this line travelled north of the lake and the other lines it became redundant.sometime in the late twenties and early thirties the Oshawa to Port Hope section was removed. I have added the few photos i have taken so far in a link below. There is also a house on solina road that is a former station. since the house is a private and active residence and i personally didnt take the photo i have of the house i decided not to include it. http://ca.pg.photo...k=phop59EB1riISnMY




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Re: Canadian Northern Railway (Durham region)
<Reply # 9 on 9/7/2006 1:49 AM >
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Just to answer your question about the 1919 bridge:

Canadian National was the name given to the newly combined Canadian Northern and Grand Trunk railways in 1919. The CNoR was temporarily known as the Canadian Government Railways before the Canadian National monicker was used. Many concrete culverts along the Ottawa-Montreal route are also dated 1918 and 1919 despite the year 1909 being the year of the line's opening. The reason is this: the original structures were timber trestles and CN thought it wise to replace them immediately. The trestle in the pic from my last message at Green's Creek had it's timber approach trestles filled in around 1921.

Strangely beginning in 1924 parts of the Toronto-Ottawa line were abandoned, although many trains still ran through, detouring on the double track former GTR mainline between sections. The first sections to go were those where the lines ran side by side (ie: Colborne-Brighton). By the late 30's everything between Toronto and Deseronto was gone, save some spurs in Trenton and other spurs. In 1939 Ottawa-Hawkesbury was abandoned as the line's only industrial customer in Rockland went out of business in 1936. In 1962 the bridge across the Ottawa River between Hawkesbury ON and Grenville QC was removed due to a hydro dam scheme. In 1986 Napanee-Smiths Falls was lifted, with VIA trains going to Brockville via the CPR, and in 1988 Grenville-Deux Montagnes was torn up. The remaining sections (Smiths Falls-Ottawa, Deux montagnes-Montreal) have smooth welded rail and plenty of passenger traffic.

The former CNoR line from Ottawa-Sudbury was abandoned between Pembroke and Sudbury in 1996 when CN transcon freights were rerouted via Toronto and onto yet another CNoR line, the CN mainline from Toronto to Sudbury. Ottawa-Pembroke is now served by regional Ottawa Central Railway.

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