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UER Forum > Archived UE Main > How monitored are construction sites? (Viewed 373 times)
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How monitored are construction sites?
< on 4/3/2007 6:43 AM >
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There is a lot of development in my area not a half mile down the road is a new elementary school going up. I itch to explore it but I wonder how monitored, if at all, the average construction site is. I know housing sites aren't too bad, but i don't know about places like schools. I don't usually explore sites that are being built and am clueless as to how protective of their things construction companies are.

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Re: How monitored are construction sites?
<Reply # 1 on 4/3/2007 11:44 AM >
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there is no one answer to questions like that it varies so much you will not get a good answer on the Internet

some companies go so far as to turn dogs loose inside the wire at night and others leave the site wide open and just hoist their valuable equipment out of reach

part of the fun is scoping it out for yourself

invest a little time watching first

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Re: How monitored are construction sites?
<Reply # 2 on 4/3/2007 2:53 PM >
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i used to look around an old primary school they were building, i had no problems with any security after 7 at night.

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Re: How monitored are construction sites?
<Reply # 3 on 4/3/2007 3:22 PM >
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I noticed some places are quiet on Sundays. Plus if you drive a truck, anyone passing by might think you work there.

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Re: How monitored are construction sites?
<Reply # 4 on 4/3/2007 7:32 PM >
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You could try asking them permission to look around. I've been pretty lucky asking people working on sites if I could take a look around.

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Re: How monitored are construction sites?
<Reply # 5 on 4/3/2007 7:58 PM >
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I've heard on the winds that copper theft from construction sites has been becoming a pretty big problem in Alaska along with the rest of the nation, and prior there were always stories in the paper about contractors having tools and equipment ripped off from sites. Sooooo.... I'd imagine security is increasing, and any worker who sees you would call the cops in a heartbeat. Not really worth the effort for a building that hasn't even been finished yet.

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Re: How monitored are construction sites?
<Reply # 6 on 4/3/2007 8:44 PM >
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I love construction sites. Drive a truck. Wear shitty pants, work boots, and a work shirt. It is no problem for me because I work a lot on sites, so I can blend in.

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Re: How monitored are construction sites?
<Reply # 7 on 4/3/2007 9:19 PM >
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Some construction sites are secure, mostly the ones that are higher end places. We checked out a nearly completed elementary school a year ago, someone left the door unlocked (we went around trying every window then were like, maybe a door is open...yea there was). They had all the items in there, minus the desks/chairs. The theatrical equipment, projectors, etc, were all there. The cameras weren't hooked up yet either (found our way to the security room to check it out after avoiding them trying to get there).
Really just depends on what you are dealing with though. I've gone to some others that cameras are within and I've seen dogs as well. Location and importance play a role.

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Re: How monitored are construction sites?
<Reply # 8 on 4/3/2007 9:20 PM >
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Unlike some live sites that prefer to be tricky with silent alarms or hidden cameras, I find that most construction sites pretty clearly advertise any security measures they're using. I find that there's usually at least one sign on the fence or by an entrance that'll mention if there are cameras or dogs or whatever. Although that's by no means a rule, a site could easily have no indication it's packing and have all sorts of security, or it could put a sign up just to bullshit people.

But like people said, depends on where you are. A future museum or office tower in the centre of downtown will probably be better secured than a school or whatever out in suburbia.

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Re: How monitored are construction sites?
<Reply # 9 on 4/4/2007 12:26 PM >
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Posted by eidolonNot really worth the effort for a building that hasn't even been finished yet.
Well... it can be worth it. At the U of Arizona campus, I was able to get into the steam tunnels through a construction site. That university's tunnels are pretty well locked down and there's no other way I'd've ever gotten in without learning to pick locks. (Well... maybe I shouldn't talk, I've only been on two uni's so I'm not exactly the steam tunnel expert! But UA's tunnels were a hundred times more secure than OSU's)

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Re: How monitored are construction sites?
<Reply # 10 on 4/4/2007 4:33 PM >
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We are actually building an elementary school, and we are making sure it's secure by the time any interior work like electrical or wall plumbing is started. No one stays on-site after hours and because of theft, the contractors lock their materials in trailers or ConEx boxes.

If you are just walking around and looking, you should be alright. If you steal or vandalize, you can count on charges being pressed.

My recommendation, find the job Super during the day and ask for a tour. Bring a hardhat and boots. If they are not busy or they are nice, you can tag along while they make their rounds.

What bugs me is when the general public wonders onto the site during work hours without permission, or PPE just to check it out. Some large sites have a visitor sign-in and sign-out so they know who is on-site. If you don't sign out, then we know to check out those caisson holes for a body before we fill it in.

In a nutshell, if there is no compromise to your safety and you have no intention of theft or vandalism, then go for it.

And with schools, you can just call yourself the owner and you are checking on the progress. After all, it is your tax dollars.


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Re: How monitored are construction sites?
<Reply # 11 on 4/4/2007 4:49 PM >
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Posted by Grandad
I don't usually explore sites that are being built and am clueless as to how protective of their things construction companies are.


If someone came onto your property and did what your considering doing, how protective would you be? Tools are a person's livelihood, that site is where they work to make ends meet.

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Re: How monitored are construction sites?
<Reply # 12 on 4/5/2007 12:07 AM >
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Getting onto a site after hours? Some contractors are using portable security systems, which may just trigger a siren that nobody may pay attention to or it might signal off-site. It usually is a factor of how many times there have been thefts from the site.

Getting onto a site during the day used to be a breeze, but the last couple of big sites I have been involved with require all workers on site to attend a health and safety seminar before entering the site. After attending you are given a sticker for your hard hat and if the Site Supervisor sees anyone with out a sticker you will be challenged.

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Re: How monitored are construction sites?
<Reply # 13 on 4/5/2007 3:49 AM >
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Posted by Curufinwe
Well... it can be worth it. At the U of Arizona campus, I was able to get into the steam tunnels through a construction site. That university's tunnels are pretty well locked down and there's no other way I'd've ever gotten in without learning to pick locks. (Well... maybe I shouldn't talk, I've only been on two uni's so I'm not exactly the steam tunnel expert! But UA's tunnels were a hundred times more secure than OSU's)


Good point... UAF's tunnels have been accessed in the same way in the past.

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Re: How monitored are construction sites?
<Reply # 14 on 4/7/2007 1:33 PM >
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It completely depends on the site and the project. I have a project Im kicking off that will have 3 webcams that take and store a shot every 30 seconds, plus will have 3 cams inside the building and more in our trailer complex that are motion detect, all the interior cameras are set to notify the Po-po silently who are about 5 minutes away. We have others sites that have nothing more than a fence. I will say though with the rise in cost of materials such as copper, were adding more and more security, both onsite guards, dogs and cameras etc... especially once we begin the interiors dur to thieves and vandalism. Most larger companies can get a break on insurance on jobs they add security that will almost pay for some security. I had one job even my superintendant carried a gun at all times but then that was a special circumstance and wasnt actually approved by the company but since 3 people were shot nearby in a 4 month period who could blame him! So bottom line it's totally dependant on the job, whats the area like, whats the stage of the job, whats the possibility of getting hit.

On a side note, we never let people come on site for "tours" one we dont have time and two, it's not worth the risk of some idiot getting hurt.

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Re: How monitored are construction sites?
<Reply # 15 on 4/7/2007 2:12 PM >
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Posted by Grandad
There is a lot of development in my area not a half mile down the road is a new elementary school going up. I itch to explore it but I wonder how monitored, if at all, the average construction site is. I know housing sites aren't too bad, but i don't know about places like schools. I don't usually explore sites that are being built and am clueless as to how protective of their things construction companies are.


It depends on what they leave on site. If it's a home where workers take home tools every night, not very. In the neighborhoods in Oregon, you can walk into homes under construction and nobody really care.

Big building construction sites are very well monitored. Contractors can't take their equipment home since there are so many. There are very expensive portable tools they can't take with them every day that gets left behind on site.

In later stage of construction, they want to protect the building from criminal defacement(you know who you are, vandals...).

Since there's a significant amount of economic motive to protect their tools from theft and site from vandalism, they're usually very well monitored.

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