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UER Forum > Archived UE Tutorials, Lessons, and Useful Info > Finding a drain (Viewed 375 times)
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Finding a drain
< on 12/31/2003 2:18 AM >
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I've been wondering about this for a while now. The way I find anything I want to explore is by going out for a walk, with no original intention of finding something. But this has yielded nothing worthy of buying a pair of waders for, other than a short, 20 meter underpass.

Is there a set technique for finding drains? And I mean human height ones. I've been on the lookout for manholes in secluded roads, but none of them so far have led down to sewers or drains that were big enough to walk down. I can't seem to find anything on the map either...

I live in a fairly hilly place, with lots of natural valleys, and rolling moorland. The weather conditions are usually wet during winter, and I can remember several "flash floods" (which incidentally don't exist, but I'm just quoting from newspapers) after heavy storms.

A friend of mine told me to start off by finding a dam, then following its outflow and river, is this the right way to do it?

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Re: Finding a drain
<Reply # 1 on 12/31/2003 4:29 AM >
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I wish I was drain guy, but i'm not. I just wanted to say that that is one of best worded questions I've seen. And I really want to know the answer.
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Re: Finding a drain
<Reply # 2 on 12/31/2003 6:38 AM >
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The water's gotta go somewhere... find it, and you'll find your drain.

Rivers, ponds, marshes - stuff like that. Not all will be passable, but if there's anything passable, that's where they're going to be.

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Re: Finding a drain
<Reply # 3 on 12/31/2003 8:06 AM >
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http://www.museumca.org/creeks/

Obtain a watershed map for your area.
The one above actually shows where the creeks become culverted.

Do you live in an urban area or a rural area?

If you get a topographical map you can determine how much water is probably running in those rivers, and thus how big the drain probably is.

I've been on long runs all over my city in search of drains. Just get the watershed map, look for ones with lots of urban run-off flowing too it. Then look to see where it flows under urban areas (paved etc.) And you've got the drain... The dam part of what your friend told you is totally irrelevant, and I wouldn't WANT to be in a river where a Dam controls the flow because if they release a lot and the water catches you in the drain you could be in trouble.

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Re: Finding a drain
<Reply # 4 on 12/31/2003 8:17 AM >
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...And I wouldn't WANT to be in a river where a Dam controls the flow because if they release a lot and the water catches you in the drain you could be in trouble.

Bingo!

Hearing him mention drains and dams in the same paragraph reminded me of some folks I knew who did some exploring in a drain system that was below a gated dam. At one point one of them even mentioned that he was aware of the fact that the release of water upstream could greatly compromise their safety, but none of them did anything to try and find out what scheduals the dam operated on, or what water-levels were behind it before exploring.

They almost got killed as a result.

They were in a partially flooded system when the noticed the water just gradually beginning to rise... by the time they made it out they were putting their faces against the ceiling of the pipe just to get their mouths far enough above water to breath.

That type of stupidity is one reason I don't trust most folks underground.

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Re: Finding a drain
<Reply # 5 on 12/31/2003 6:37 PM >
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How big is your city? Population?

One of the "oldest tricks in the book" is to drive around and look for ravines. If you see a ravine on one side of the road, but not the other then it must be a drain.

Start downtown and figure out where all those slots go. If it's an old city, the downtown system will be big and interesting.

Remember, if you see grates, inlets, or rainslots they have to be part of a storm drain system big or small.

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Re: Finding a drain
<Reply # 6 on 12/31/2003 7:49 PM >
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There are several things you need to have for there to be good drains:
--an urban area with little natural turf showing
Drains are built to provide a place for stormwater runoff to go when it collects on roads and parking lots. The big drains that you can walk through are needed to drain large areas of cities that are almost entirely covered by concrete. if you live in a very grassy suburb or out in the country, drains will be few, far between, and very small if you do find them.

--somewhere for the water to go
hopefully, your concrete-covered urban area will be uphill from a body of water or a river of some sort. if this is the case, get a boat and putt-putt along the shore directly downhill from concrete-covered-urban-area and look for large concrete pipes sticking out.



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Re: Finding a drain
<Reply # 7 on 12/31/2003 10:14 PM >
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There seems to be some more criteria I need to supply before I get a more direct answer.

I live in a rural town, wich could be described as suburban. It has a river running through it, that goes out to sea, which goes under a road and a car park.

I'll supply more information as I come across it. Town population is about 22,000.

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Re: Finding a drain
<Reply # 8 on 12/31/2003 10:45 PM >
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Are there any abandoned research facilties nearby? Often they have large drains.

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Re: Finding a drain
<Reply # 9 on 12/31/2003 11:17 PM >
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Posted by Ben
Are there any abandoned research facilties nearby? Often they have large drains.


No, this town isn't really big enough for that sort of thing. It does have a sewage works though, that's about a kilometer outside of town, and that is near the river. I'm not totally sure I could stomach the smell and thought of all that shit though...

I've just thought of a question for you though; why would a research facility have a big drain? Isn't that a little... toxic?

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Re: Finding a drain
<Reply # 10 on 1/1/2004 4:34 AM >
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22,000 should be big enough to have a few walkable drains. Are you over 18? You should be able to go to public works and be allowed to look at the storm drain maps. If they give you a hassle, tell them it's part of the Public Information Act.

What exactly is a car park? Is that like a car dealership? If the river goes under a car park, have you been under the car park yet?

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Re: Finding a drain
<Reply # 11 on 1/1/2004 5:45 AM >
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22,000 should be big enough to have a few walkable drains. Are you over 18? You should be able to go to public works and be allowed to look at the storm drain maps. If they give you a hassle, tell them it's part of the Public Information Act.

What exactly is a car park? Is that like a car dealership? If the river goes under a car park, have you been under the car park yet?


Car park is another way of saying parking lot. I heard this English guy say it once and just found it easier and faster than parking lot. The river goes into a tunnel underneath a short section of this parking lot, for about 20 meters, then pops out the other side. Interestingly, this short water tunnel is split down the middle, but the water only travels down one side, with the other side being filled up with sand and dirt. Down the whole length of the river, as far as I've seen, that side is just a weedy embankment, broken only by a few culverts.

I am 18, yes. The only public works near me though is a sewage works, owned by the water company, who keep it's gates closed all day and night. Would it be better to just contact the water company instead?

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Re: Finding a drain
<Reply # 12 on 1/1/2004 6:50 AM >
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You can always do the, "IM doing a reserch project for school on watersheds" Speaking of which I should do that when I get home got a draining itch because of you bastards.

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Re: Finding a drain
<Reply # 13 on 2/1/2004 4:53 AM >
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Posted by Mark
You can always do the, "IM doing a reserch project for school on watersheds" Speaking of which I should do that when I get home got a draining itch because of you bastards.


LOL one of my friends actually is doing his school research project on drains and watersheds, and it has proved to be a great excuse



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Re: Finding a drain
<Reply # 14 on 2/1/2004 7:27 AM >
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Posted by n_lee1234


LOL one of my friends actually is doing his school research project on drains and watersheds, and it has proved to be a great excuse




How ironic. The guy doing the project is named Mark as well.

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Re: Finding a drain
<Reply # 15 on 2/3/2004 4:54 PM >
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oh the irony!!! ......hmmm.....i have a nice little drain just outside my property.....runs right under the highway.......brb...feelin slimalicious already! lol

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